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In the Astral Plane the war between the Githyanki and the Githzerai wages on but every one hundred years members of both groups gather along with their former slave masters the illithid and a host of other planar beings for what has been known to be called the Gathering.

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The Gathering is an event at a neutral site where members of each faction put their champions against each other for bragging rights for the winner for the next 100 years.

The Event is held at an ancient god-isle called the Hallows

God-isles
Are the immense petrified remains of a dead god that float on the Astral Plane. God-isles often have unusual effects on those nearby, including causing strange dreams of things that happened to the god when it was alive. God-isles are also the only locations on the Astral Plane that are known to possess gravity or normal time flows.





THIS IS WHERE YOU THE PLAYER COME IN

I thought of reaching out to you the players to help flesh out this idea and take the input here and apply it to this event. The background and setting I can adjust but would like to keep it along those lines but and am open to suggestions.

For those of your who read this and say another combat event where can I fit in? Well your in luck I know the theme is a tournament but what fun is that without all the little things that surround such an event such as entertainment, wagers on matches and perhaps even merchants selling wares.

Some may say well I play a Paladin or some character whom would never willingly participate in such an event even though I would like to. For those people I would be willing to work it in where you were captured and forced into the event the logistics of which can be either done by you and DM Nilbog approved or I can weave some horrid situation that your placed in.

I have ran several of these type events before on nwn1 years ago and they were always quiet popular as they had some story behind the madness that folks seemed to enjoy so I figured why not try it here and let you all help determine how it will go.

The setup I had in mind is this. Before a match your sponsor or captor will determine if the Match starts at a distance or melee range. How much input you have in such depends how well your sponsor likes you. So if you managed to piss them off they might not take your advice.

Whom wins and what happens.

In the past cocky fighters could wager a magic item of theirs against an opponents and the winner takes both. Keep in mind the items wagered must be of near equal value. Say player 1 wagers a +4 flame tongue player 2 if they choose to accept the wager must put up an item of equal value. All wagers are done prior to the match in the arena and announced to the crowd. This is done so the crowd can boo someone not confident enough to accept the wager.

That is it for now this sort of thing has been done here in the past and failed and some worked as well. So I am looking to you for the logistics of how the match rules should go and other aspects of the event mentioned above.

Have fun with it keep it clean and remember the forum rules while discussing this.
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Well 99 views and nobody is interested in participating or have any advice. I'll leave it a few more days and if I don't get enough nibbles I'll try something else that may gather more interest.

Take care and have fun I will try and get something for you fine folks. :)
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Well, it is a long post :D I clicked on it and didn't read it when I saw how long it is, but I made a mental note to read it eventually. I'm sure there are quite a few other people who did the same.
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Well in the past on other servers we did arena match. Double elimination
Anyone can challenge the winner as well as pick the fighting style.

Full force: all weapons, armor, enchantments, magic anything goes

Natural: no enchanted weapons or armor, no scrolls or wands,only natural abilities

Raw: no casting, no enchanted items, no wands or scrolls, no skill abilities ((ie Hips))only mundane weapons and armor
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Many tournament type of events had a lot of success lately. The ones i participated where the ones at the Roaringshore, in BG and of course the one in the UD. What made them great, was the RP on the sides - bets, trades etc.

I think such event would be very entertaining and i would gladly take part in such.
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Yep sounds like a lot of fun i'd be in !
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While I think it would make the most sense to not have level brackets and assume an "epics only" tournament, it might be worth having a few lower level brackets for accessability and funs.

I'd like to spectate if I end up not participating, regardless. And cast bets!
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Young Werther wrote:While I think it would make the most sense to not have level brackets and assume an "epics only" tournament, it might be worth having a few lower level brackets for accessability and funs.

I'd like to spectate if I end up not participating, regardless. And cast bets!
Or non-combat duels, but duels with rolls. This way, even lowlevel chars stand a better chance against epics.
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Could some sort of team fighting be arranged from this? It'd be interesting to team up random characters and see what sort of dynamics ensue. I don't know any tournaments that have included teams either. Maybe go wild and do some traditional PvP stuff like capture the flag or king of the hill.
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I was tethering on whether I should comment or not, but seeing as you encourage it I'll do so :)

I like the idea of a tournament or monster fight.

I'm less keen on planartravel suddenly becoming common, and three monster races that are mortal enemies, and have been since the dawn of time, making contests based on bragging... These races have done some serious hurt to each other.

It seems very unnecessary to me... and it does leave me wondering, what will the next DM have to do to make their monster fight / tournament seem even more epic. I've always liked the saying 'Less is more'. To me, the energy that would otherwise be spent in writing up fanciful descriptions of the Astral plane, and the three monster races that host the event, could be better spent writing up something closer to home, that could more easily be reused and become a part of our setting.

We could have an 'eccentric' wizard ala Halaster Blackcloak, who keeps a pet menagerie of monsters that he pits against arena fighters for coin. If he's established as an actual NPC of note, he could also be drawn on in more common or mega plots or even player requests.

Maybe some adventures decide to try and steal from him, but instead unleashes some rare and exotic monsters on the land, that other adventures then have to hunt down. Some mercenary types or evil guilds might look to make an easy profit in hunting down monsters for him to use in his arena - my point is, I think it would give many more opportunities, without making Monster Fights or Tournaments any less entertaining :)
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I say go for it goblin, I like the general idea.


As was indicated above the tournament scenario would be bound to include some feuds sparking off between individuals of the three sponsoring races I guess.
Outright rioting, attempts at cheating, who knows what it will evolve into.
As I see it that would only add to the theme you envision.

Toons being mysteriously taking (player consented) or going willingly to join the gathering ic would only add some spice to the overall server as well.
Who knows maybe some parties can seek out their missing companion by magical means and get to influence the event in person arriving by planar gate?


As for the actual tournament I humbly think that hipsing and things turning you invisible should be taken out since that would block the spectators from seeing what is happening as well as prove a way of escape by planar travel.
In essence a dimensional anchor falls upon the choosen arena?
Not sure on how to explain hips being out of it beyond some illithid having made mental suggestions to the toon in question.
Normal stealth should be in however with at least some areas allowing for exploiting the terrain in question.

As for the actual events I believe it would probably also make sense that each fight includes a variant of threes in it unlike to normal duel to get all the sponsoring races in on the action at hand.
3 champions, 6 champions, 9 chamions and so on.

It would be nice if different arenas could be used but I can understand the strain this would cause as to map and arena customization.

Classwise I see no bars beyond what I suggested above.

Levelwise it would be nice if the all the level ranges get a chance at it.
Again this would possibly make sense in regards to the sponsoring races in question.

Would it be possible with an actual dungeon where the more or less willing toons can roleplay with each other between the actual events?

Again, I hope we will see some bad blood between the sponsors and rampant attempts at cheating.
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I agree with considerate as far as the background lore... ...its a tad too epic.
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So essentially we want an "all server tournament (but anyone with hips need not apply)"

I like the suggestion about having different rules agreed upon by the sponsors such as "no special abilities" or "no buffs" or whatever, but just saying "no hips" while the mage happily throws down a vampiric feast and the FS/BG EDM's into oblivion strikes me as needless exclusion of rogue, ranger, dex monks and the like.

You can't allow stealth but disallow hips, if you have hips and don't position behind terrain correctly you'll still hide (cuz you have hips). Unless a DM wants to remove and then add the feat back after the tournament for every character that had it...
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Monnock777 wrote:
Full force: all weapons, armor, enchantments, magic anything goes

Natural: no enchanted weapons or armor, no scrolls or wands,only natural abilities

Raw: no casting, no enchanted items, no wands or scrolls, no skill abilities ((ie Hips))only mundane weapons and armor
If your character needs hips then don't challenge someone to raw unless you think you can win a toe to toe fight with them. Hips could still be used in natural or full force. It was meant as an example, DM, EDM, knockdown, feint all could fit it to that category
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I was agreeing with your post Monnock... Another post discussed disabling hips and things that turn you invisible, while allowing normal stealth. I think if you take away hips you should take away all special abilities, which is what you were saying as well. :D
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