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Storm Bolt after Update and Baleful Polymorph

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Hey there!

So I noticed a couple of things.
  • Storm Bolt, the lightning damage based Reserve Feat, does not seem to work anymore for bards. I'll elaborate: earlier, Stormsinger would grant 1d6 * Class Level in stormsinger. For bards, and for roleplay purposes, it was actually decent enough. Especially if you were CHA-based like the bard I'm playing. Unfortunately, after the update, it's not a thing anymore. Is it a bug, or it was simply meant for this to not exist? And if so, if it's not possible to fix it, is it possible to ask for a feat swap then?
  • Baleful Polymorph, for Warlocks mostly, seem to not transform the enemies between a choice of several animals. Instead, you can turn them into a bat only (no more rabbits / weasels / rats for warlocks!). Is it intended, or something just got borked? :D

Thanks in advance!
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Re: Storm Bolt after Update and Baleful Polymorph

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Storm Bolt is still supposed to work for stormsingers.


For baleful, is this a new development? We haven't even touched this spell.
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Re: Storm Bolt after Update and Baleful Polymorph

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Rhifox wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 11:08 am Storm Bolt is still supposed to work for stormsingers.
Earlier, it worked even if you didn't have any lightning spell on - it counted the Stormsinger levels alone. But now I get this message:

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Rhifox wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 11:08 am For baleful, is this a new development? We haven't even touched this spell.
It is kinda new. I remember some time ago (Talking about a year or so?), when I clicked on Baleful Polymorph - I had to choose. Right now, instead, if I click on the spell... it chooses automatically the bat :D without the drop down menu.
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Re: Storm Bolt after Update and Baleful Polymorph

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It's been automatic bat for warlock at least since the ToT -- I used for a bit.

Maybe the non invocation version gives more options.
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Re: Storm Bolt after Update and Baleful Polymorph

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Hullack wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:49 pm Maybe the non invocation version gives more options.
Yes, it does.
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Re: Storm Bolt after Update and Baleful Polymorph

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Storm Bolt for stormsinger should now be fixed.
* Storm Bolt with Stormsinger works again. In addition, given that storm bolt was never listed as a class feature for stormsinger nor was described on storm bolt itself, storm bolt's interaction with the class has been normalized with the intent of reserve feats. Stormsinger storm bolt no longer stacks with other spells, but instead replaces them if the level of the stormsinger ability triggering the feat is higher than any prepared lightning spells (eg if you have lightning bolt prepared, a level 3 spell, but are stormsinger 10, then storm bolt will have 9 dice, due to the storm of vengeance granted by stormsinger 10). This only really affects multiclass bards, as single class bards do not have any lightning spells.

For the purposes of storm bolt with stormsinger, stormsinger thunderstrike is treated as a 3rd level spell, stormsinger call lightning is treated as a 5th level spell, stormsinger greater thunderstrike is treated as a 7th level spell, and stormsinger storm of vengeance is treated as a 9th level spell.

If you run out of uses of bardic magic for that day, storm bolt will no longer be able to trigger from stormsinger, just like other mages.

Stormsinger 10 now qualifies for Epic Reserve.
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Re: Storm Bolt after Update and Baleful Polymorph

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Confirmed, it works! Thanks a lot!
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