Polymorph/shapechange bugs

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Re: Polymorph/shapechange bugs

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Ah well. At least there's finallity to it, so I can start planning around a RCR finally.

Thanks.


Also, I think it would be nice to post that as a disclaimer on the relevant wikia pages or some such.
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Re: Polymorph/shapechange bugs

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Valefort wrote:I don't think there is a fix for spontaneous spellcasters with races with bonuses to casting stat, the skin already adds everything to give you the proper INT/CHA/WIS.
If x race add x stat at +6 for a second until the stats on the skin take effect.
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Re: Polymorph/shapechange bugs

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Okay, I want to get the final FINAL word on this:

1) any Spontaneous Casters (ex. Sorcerer) that have a Racial modifier (ex. Aasimar +2 CHA) will lose ANY bonus spells from the innate ability modifier (+2 CHA) when using Polymorph/Shapechange...and this cannot be fixed.

2) any Spontaneous Casters (ex. Sorcerer) that has Items with Bonus Spells (any Level) will lose those Bonus Spell castings EACH TIME shifting using Polymorph/Shapechange...and this cannot be fixed.

In both issues above, each time a PC shifts with either or both (!) and returns to normal form, there will be a subtraction of Castings per Day until reaching Zero (in the appropriate Spell Level).

I would like to get as much as a final word on this as possible in order to update the Wiki on the Polymorphing page—give a Warning—and on the Spell(s) pages.

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Re: Polymorph/shapechange bugs

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*bump on my previous post, thanks*
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Re: Polymorph/shapechange bugs

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Hello everyone,

are there any news on this? i have just rcr'd a sorcerer/dragon disciple to get a cool shifter copying a Sun Wukong's build (thanks), but always losing spell slots when shifting.

Is there any way to have it fixed or should i rcr again now that is 100% granted?

thanks!
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Re: Polymorph/shapechange bugs

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The latest word on this issue is there are likely a way or ways to fix the issue, but it requires Valefort or another scripting wizard to make a go of it. Which is still no guarantee, either way.
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Any new ideas how to fix this mess ?


Seems it got worse, my shapeshiting sorcerers does lose two times their spell-slots-from-items on each returning to original form :doh:

(my sorcerer has 9 bonusspells from items = 18 spells !!! )

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Theodore01 wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:08 pm Any new ideas how to fix this mess ?


Seems it got worse, my shapeshiting sorcerers does lose two times their spell-slots-from-items on each returning to original form :doh:

(my sorcerer has 9 bonusspells from items = 18 spells !!! )

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Just to be clear, you are saying that After you polymorph you are Losing all bonus spells from Items? or is it that it is stacking and adding more spells then you had?
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Re: Polymorph/shapechange bugs

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I'm losing twice my bonus slot spells. (probably once on shifting and once again on shifting back)
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Re: Polymorph/shapechange bugs

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This isn’t new, mate. It is has been a problem that can be fixed but with a boat load of scripting (and obviously NOT FUN scripting because Valefort passed on trying).

The only viable solution is to not use bonus spell slot items with a Polymorphing Sorcerer.

At least until someone with chops more skilled than Val AND more willing than Val, wants to fix it. Or at least try....
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Re: Polymorph/shapechange bugs

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Apologies for necro'ing this thread, I just came back to server after a hiatus and want to confirm that:

1. Spells per day loss for Sorcs using bonus spell items -> NOT FIXED

2. Spells per day loss for Sorcs with racial Cha bonus (eg. aasimar) -> NOT FIXED?

3. Spells per day loss for Sorcs with class Cha bonus (eg. dragon disciple) -> SEEMS FIXED

I was playing a shape-shifting half-elf dragon disciple sorc with no bonus spell slot items, and there don't seem to be any spells per day loss.

Has the issue been fixed for racial Cha bonus like aasimars though?
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