Polymorph/shapechange bugs

Any Issues or Bugs Should Be Posted in Their Respective Categories

Moderators: Moderator, Developer, Quality Control, Associate Dev, DM

Hawke
Forum Moderator
Posts: 1181
Joined: Sun Aug 01, 2010 6:11 pm

Re: Polymorph/shapechange bugs

Unread post by Hawke »

Well then maybe the forms don't like my weapons.

Polymorph is good.

Shapechange isn't for carrying over weapon bonuses.
Gold Text = Moderator Mode
Any other color is just my opinion.
Hawke
Forum Moderator
Posts: 1181
Joined: Sun Aug 01, 2010 6:11 pm

Re: Polymorph/shapechange bugs

Unread post by Hawke »

Ok now for some reason shapechange is working with weapon enhancements.

Not sure what was going on.
Gold Text = Moderator Mode
Any other color is just my opinion.
User avatar
the_flame_of_anor
Posts: 179
Joined: Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:27 am

Re: Polymorph/shapechange bugs

Unread post by the_flame_of_anor »

The spell slots loss fix doesn't seem to be working on sorcerers?

Apparently, each time my shapeshifted sorc returns to original form, the count for spells per day for those spell levels where bonus spell slots items apply (eg. levels 3 and 4 if a Ring of Sorcerous Power is worn) and where Eagle's Splendor gives a boost goes down by 1. So, 8 or 9 returns-to-original-form later, those affected spell levels have 0 spells per day left.
The love of loot is the root of all evil.

Arlan ~ Wandering Abbot of the Common Folk.
Zirvoden ~ Deep Reserves of Power.
Ryujin ~ Former Imperial High Mage of Kozakura.
Hawke
Forum Moderator
Posts: 1181
Joined: Sun Aug 01, 2010 6:11 pm

Re: Polymorph/shapechange bugs

Unread post by Hawke »

It won't.

Any bonus spell slot items it will lose that spell with each change, either to a form or back to normal.
Gold Text = Moderator Mode
Any other color is just my opinion.
Hawke
Forum Moderator
Posts: 1181
Joined: Sun Aug 01, 2010 6:11 pm

Re: Polymorph/shapechange bugs

Unread post by Hawke »

Oh i know where all that information is for the sorcerer bugs.... actually any spontaneous caster and polymorph/shapechange.

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=64000&p=808732#p808732


It's on page 3 of THIS thread.
Gold Text = Moderator Mode
Any other color is just my opinion.
User avatar
the_flame_of_anor
Posts: 179
Joined: Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:27 am

Re: Polymorph/shapechange bugs

Unread post by the_flame_of_anor »

Oh man... that sucks then.

Is a fix in the works? Or is this deemed something that is near impossible to fix?

Good thing my sorcerer tried out shapeshift via a potion I found! Otherwise, though the spell can be quite fun to play with, I will be stuck with a fundamentally suboptimal spell for sorcerers with no way of swapping it out -- another short end of the stick for sorcerers.
The love of loot is the root of all evil.

Arlan ~ Wandering Abbot of the Common Folk.
Zirvoden ~ Deep Reserves of Power.
Ryujin ~ Former Imperial High Mage of Kozakura.
Hawke
Forum Moderator
Posts: 1181
Joined: Sun Aug 01, 2010 6:11 pm

Re: Polymorph/shapechange bugs

Unread post by Hawke »

No fix that I know of.

It sucks for sorcerers, but mine made it up to 18 without issue. It would be nice having more spells to use, but it still works.
Gold Text = Moderator Mode
Any other color is just my opinion.
User avatar
Tsidkenu
Posts: 3891
Joined: Tue May 27, 2014 12:04 am
Location: Terra Nullis

Re: Polymorph/shapechange bugs

Unread post by Tsidkenu »

The only 'fix' is not to use bonus spell slot items on your sorcerer so you have nothing to lose when shapechanging.
Tsidkenu wrote:Do you want to panic over something that 99.996 percent of the world population doesn't even have?
Do you want to panic over something that 99.99983% of the world population hasn't even died from?
Off exploring the Electric Universe.
User avatar
Steve
Recognized Donor
Posts: 6678
Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:42 am
Location: Paradise in GMT +1

Re: Polymorph/shapechange bugs

Unread post by Steve »

Tsidkenu wrote:The only 'fix' is not to use bonus spell slot items on your sorcerer so you have nothing to lose when shapechanging.
And to build to end up on 28 CHA minimum with/without Item, so that you get enough bonus spells to have no issue.
|> Jon SmytheChionthar Charter & Seaward Supply Co. — Seafarer, Knight of the Unicorn, Coast Way Adventurers Guild
|> Chezar Bloodeye — Mercenary-adventurer Half-Orc (Level 13, LFG)
Rudolph
Posts: 547
Joined: Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:41 pm

Re: Polymorph/shapechange bugs

Unread post by Rudolph »

The Palrethee does not get any dmg bonus whatsoever from Power Attack (only the AB reduction). It wields a Greatsword (acc. to wiki and base damage on the Cha sheet), but seems to do so one-handed acc. to the animation, so I expected either +3 or +6 dmg. Is this a bug or is the weapon a light one for the Parelthee and hence cannot be used for PA? In that case, does it qualify for Weapon Finesse, i.e. Swashbuckler Insightful Strike?
User avatar
DiceyCZ
Posts: 348
Joined: Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:18 pm
Location: Czech Republic

Re: Polymorph/shapechange bugs

Unread post by DiceyCZ »

Arboreal elf seems to be the only bow form that does not register Point blank shot from bracers in my feat list. Erinye and Elf form both have point blank shot in feats upon transformation but not arboreal elf. Also Arboreal elf seems to be the only (in my experience, I don't use all forms) that doesn't check for and remove pollyspellfix, it creates it but doesn't remove after changing back.
Niyressa Dawncrow (bio) - Steward, House Aldren
"Magic is Chaos, Art, and Science. It is a curse, a blessing, and progress. It all depends on who uses magic, how they use it, and to what purpose. And magic is everywhere. All around us.”
Hawke
Forum Moderator
Posts: 1181
Joined: Sun Aug 01, 2010 6:11 pm

Re: Polymorph/shapechange bugs

Unread post by Hawke »

DiceyCZ wrote:Also Arboreal elf seems to be the only (in my experience, I don't use all forms) that doesn't check for and remove pollyspellfix, it creates it but doesn't remove after changing back.

I noticed this too, but when you rest, it goes away like 95% of the time.
Gold Text = Moderator Mode
Any other color is just my opinion.
User avatar
DiceyCZ
Posts: 348
Joined: Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:18 pm
Location: Czech Republic

Re: Polymorph/shapechange bugs

Unread post by DiceyCZ »

DiceyCZ wrote:Arboreal elf seems to be the only bow form that does not register Point blank shot from bracers in my feat list. Erinye and Elf form both have point blank shot in feats upon transformation but not arboreal elf. Also Arboreal elf seems to be the only (in my experience, I don't use all forms) that doesn't check for and remove pollyspellfix, it creates it but doesn't remove after changing back.
One more thing, it seems arboreal elf does not register any at all feats gained by equipment in feat list. (point blank shot, dodge, toughness). Other forms do.
Niyressa Dawncrow (bio) - Steward, House Aldren
"Magic is Chaos, Art, and Science. It is a curse, a blessing, and progress. It all depends on who uses magic, how they use it, and to what purpose. And magic is everywhere. All around us.”
User avatar
the_flame_of_anor
Posts: 179
Joined: Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:27 am

Re: Polymorph/shapechange bugs

Unread post by the_flame_of_anor »

Steve wrote:
Tsidkenu wrote:The only 'fix' is not to use bonus spell slot items on your sorcerer so you have nothing to lose when shapechanging.
And to build to end up on 28 CHA minimum with/without Item, so that you get enough bonus spells to have no issue.
Just tested this on my sorc... Even without bonus spell slot items worn, so long as the sorc is wearing any charisma enhancement item, he will still lose spells per day. And losing a level 9 bonus spell due to enhanced high charisma every time he shifts is no joke, and not worth taking the shapeshift spell. And there is no way my sorc can swap out the shapeshift spell now.
The love of loot is the root of all evil.

Arlan ~ Wandering Abbot of the Common Folk.
Zirvoden ~ Deep Reserves of Power.
Ryujin ~ Former Imperial High Mage of Kozakura.
User avatar
Tsidkenu
Posts: 3891
Joined: Tue May 27, 2014 12:04 am
Location: Terra Nullis

Re: Polymorph/shapechange bugs

Unread post by Tsidkenu »

Cast Eagle's Splendor (or use a potion/scroll of the same) and that will prevent spell loss from +CHA item.
Tsidkenu wrote:Do you want to panic over something that 99.996 percent of the world population doesn't even have?
Do you want to panic over something that 99.99983% of the world population hasn't even died from?
Off exploring the Electric Universe.
Post Reply