Shifting forms causing lag and crashes - Shifter

[Strago]

I very recently picked up the epic elemental wildshape feat on my shifter. On at least 3 occasions when I used it around party members it caused one or more of them to crash to desktop. It has also caused my own game to crash 1 of these times.

I've also recently started experiencing lag spikes on my own game and seem to be causing them in party members when I use some of my shifter shapes I've noticed it being an issue on the gorgon shape more than others.

[Strago]

Bumping because the issue is still there only now epic elemental is crashing my own client as well as others. Also seeing lag spikes with some of the shifter shapes gorgon is noticeably bad.

[mixafix]

something here recently has me crashing too. particularly was elemental shape. Not tested further yet.

[Steve]

Yep, something is absolutely wrong...and maybe I can lend a hand in getting it fixed.

With my Shifter, I attempted to use Epic Elemental Form, Water Elemental...and it crashed my game. But...look at the screenshot of the Combat Log. It returned that I was trying to shape "...into dragon form," which my PC was not doing. After the polyspellfix got loaded up, I crashed.

So perhaps what is happening here is that some code is being crossed...and needs to be put back to call the correct forms, or call the correct code in the 2DA?

[JustAnotherGuy]

To add to this, the toon Lysander tried to use a spell or an ability to turn into gaseous form. It crashed myself and Hinzel's games.

[DaloLorn]

Yep, something is absolutely wrong...and maybe I can lend a hand in getting it fixed.

With my Shifter, I attempted to use Epic Elemental Form, Water Elemental...and it crashed my game. But...look at the screenshot of the Combat Log. It returned that I was trying to shape "...into dragon form," which my PC was not doing. After the polyspellfix got loaded up, I crashed.

So perhaps what is happening here is that some code is being crossed...and needs to be put back to call the correct forms, or call the correct code in the 2DA?

Matelener copy-pasted the spell row from Dragon Shape, which included a custom TLK reference for its spell message. No relation whatsoever.

[Steve]

Matelener copy-pasted the spell row from Dragon Shape, which included a custom TLK reference for its spell message. No relation whatsoever.

Very well. Can it be better customized, to say "into Epic Elemental form" and "into Epic Animal form?"

But still, Epic Elemental Shape and Epic Animal Shape crash to desktop. Something got changed, since I've never had this issue before (but last I actually used this PC for shifting, it was about a month or more ago).

[FearBeforeTheFlames]

This particular issue is keeping shifter players from partying with others; and preventing them from playing their characters in some instances.

It will crash the entire party.

No clue how to fix it; but I can imagine this particular bug feels pretty game-breaking to them.

[DaloLorn]

Has anyone submitted crash dumps to Skywing yet? Client crashes are always a pain in the neck to deal with, because there's not a lot we can do on our end to figure out what happened.

[Lockonnow]

it have not allways been this way

[Theodore01]

For shapeshifters - It really has gotten worse. From an occasional crash now and then to regular crashes now.
I had 7 crashes in one area 2 days ago. Something seems off...

Immediate crashes if shifting into a epic elemental. (The dialog shows, crashing after making my choice)

[Steve]

Has anyone submitted crash dumps to Skywing yet? Client crashes are always a pain in the neck to deal with, because there's not a lot we can do on our end to figure out what happened.

What about considering if, with the last Server Update, any code related to shifting was changed? Cause a month ago, maybe a bit more, it was working perfectly (for me, as in, with my own Shifter).

[Strago]

Has anyone submitted crash dumps to Skywing yet? Client crashes are always a pain in the neck to deal with, because there's not a lot we can do on our end to figure out what happened.

What about considering if, with the last Server Update, any code related to shifting was changed? Cause a month ago, maybe a bit more, it was working perfectly (for me, as in, with my own Shifter).

I can confirm that this is a new development as well.

[Steve]

I'm totally fishing here, but I looked over the recent Server Updates posts, and through association I see that Epic Spells were worked on a few times, adjustments and some database change.

I'm not knowledgeable about whether Epic Elemental Shape and Epic Animal Shape are considered Epic Spells on the backend of things, but other than Epic Spells being something affecting "Epic" related feats—which we are having problems with now—I saw nothing shifter or shapechange related in the last 3 Server Updates.

Considering though that the Forum Server Updates are not always explicit, maybe the DEV forums are the better place to cross reference changes.

[DaloLorn]

Has anyone submitted crash dumps to Skywing yet? Client crashes are always a pain in the neck to deal with, because there's not a lot we can do on our end to figure out what happened.

What about considering if, with the last Server Update, any code related to shifting was changed? Cause a month ago, maybe a bit more, it was working perfectly (for me, as in, with my own Shifter).

As you yourself discovered, there were no code changes related to any kind of shapeshifting (legendary wildshapes !== epic spells). My best bet might be asset/VFX changes, but AFAIK there's been no directly related changes on that front either. (However, it wouldn't be the first time a HAK was shaken loose in an update or something. Remember how we temporarily lost a bunch of heads a few months back? I certainly do... )

Either way, we're not equipped to figure out what's causing the crash. There's, I think, three people in the whole modding community who I'd expect to be able to track this down - Skywing, Dae, and AoS - and none of them can work blindly off a bug description. (Though granted, they might already get a vague notion just from that.)