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Sudden Aegis suggestion

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Hello!
This isn't the first time I'm looking to make Sudden Aegis a worthwhile spell. And this time around, I'm hoping that minds are more flexible! 0:)

Currently, Sudden Aegis is a instantaneous casting from a Feat if memorized in the Spellbook, and a spell that lasts 1 round granting 10 DR / Adamantine. These are PnP stats, and for PnP, it is decent because...PnP isn't on a running clock that we can't control (or the DM controls at the Table).

A 1 round spell, even if instantaneous and on a 30 sec timer, is not well balanced for a PW Server. As well, since the spell has a Target of 1 Creature, it means after clicking the Hotbar'd Feat, you still have to use a cursor to select the recipient (that means for Self as well!).

I propose one of two options for a change:

1. Change it to a duration of 3 rounds every 30 seconds. Just compare to duration and DR amount from Premonition! (and yes I know...difference in Lvl 3 vs Lvl 8 spell).
2. Change it to 3/adamantine @ 1 round / CL. Just a little bit of helpful DR then, for a very decent amount of time.

Thank you for the consideration.
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*bump*

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Linked in QC. No promises, but will discuss it.
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*bump*

I think I've fairly waited long enough for a response. But...you tell me!! :dance: :think:

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Steve wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:22 am *bump*

I think I've fairly waited long enough for a response. But...you tell me!! :dance: :think:
Just popped this over to the QC discord. I’ll try to get some feedback this week. Sorry about the extreme delay, I think it just got lost in the weeds with everything else going on. Like the really really tall weeds because of how old they are.

But again, it’s been a pretty huge dev cycle so I beg a little more patience.
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Tanlaus wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 2:45 pm
Steve wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:22 am *bump*

I think I've fairly waited long enough for a response. But...you tell me!! :dance: :think:
Just popped this over to the QC discord. I’ll try to get some feedback this week. Sorry about the extreme delay, I think it just got lost in the weeds with everything else going on. Like the really really tall weeds because of how old they are.

But again, it’s been a pretty huge dev cycle so I beg a little more patience.
Cheers. We are talking about 2 year old weeds!! Lol.

In general, I love these “spells that can be clickable feats,” it’s just that many literally work so little time that one can’t make good use of them (especially when not instant, and when they last only 1 round, where so often an Action pauses a PCs queue and thus the PC loses that whole round!).

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Steve wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 2:52 pm
Tanlaus wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 2:45 pm
Steve wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:22 am *bump*

I think I've fairly waited long enough for a response. But...you tell me!! :dance: :think:
Just popped this over to the QC discord. I’ll try to get some feedback this week. Sorry about the extreme delay, I think it just got lost in the weeds with everything else going on. Like the really really tall weeds because of how old they are.

But again, it’s been a pretty huge dev cycle so I beg a little more patience.
Cheers. We are talking about 2 year old weeds!! Lol.

In general, I love these “spells that can be clickable feats,” it’s just that many literally work so little time that one can’t make good use of them (especially when not instant, and when they last only 1 round, where so often an Action pauses a PCs queue and thus the PC loses that whole round!).
You’ll find no argument with me there.
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Hahahahahaha!

Just add another month to the pile! :dance: :naughty: :| :twisted: 0:) :doh: :think: :ugeek:

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I could be mistaken, but from when I was trying out the spell for a little bit, it seemed that the DR didn't actually kick in as instantly as the feat itself did, depending on the timing. As far as I could tell, I was wasting most/all of the effect because it was wearing off faster than the game could register there was a change in DR.

Maybe I wasn't checking correctly or it just didn't show in the combat log, but that's how it appeared to me.

When I was sure it was working though, it was so cool. I love this spell and it's incredibly fun.
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Steve wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:28 pm Hahahahahaha!

Just add another month to the pile! :dance: :naughty: :| :twisted: 0:) :doh: :think: :ugeek:
The giant ToT patch, and subsequent bug fixes, pretty much burned everyone out. Dev work has been relatively non existent since. But things are threatening to pick up again.

I wouldn’t advise any breath holding but I’ll try to get a list of small issues to address up sooner rather than later.
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Tanlaus wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:09 am I wouldn’t advise any breath holding but ...
Good advice!!! 8-)

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Steve wrote: Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:51 am
Tanlaus wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:09 am I wouldn’t advise any breath holding but ...
Good advice!!! 8-)
I did bring it up on the QC forums… not the most active topic 😀
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Tanlaus wrote: Sun Sep 25, 2022 3:40 pm
Steve wrote: Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:51 am
Tanlaus wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:09 am I wouldn’t advise any breath holding but ...
Good advice!!! 8-)
I did bring it up on the QC forums… not the most active topic 😀
Haha! You think? 2+ years just to get to this point!! Not active is like the understatement of the existence OF BGTSCC.

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Happy anniversary Suggestion!

Why thank you Steve, it’s so very nice you thought of me.

But of course, Suggestion…you are, after all, important.

Oh, you are too kind Steve, too kind…I am but just one suggestion of hundreds each year.

Yes, Suggestion, you are correct. But you are one of mine, and I love all my suggestions, equally. I could never forget about you, no matter how forgotten you may have become with others.

Oh Steve, your thoughtfulness in that one day I may grow from an idea for improvement to either actual change, or simply be made free from the limbo I do exist in, warms me through an through. You are truly a great one of the faithful against that which remains unresolved.

Let us then raise a glass to you, Suggestion, perhaps one final time!!!

Hoorah, hoorah, hoorah!

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