New Language: Gurri

Suggestions or Mechanical Requests for Classes, Feats, Races, Etc.

Moderators: Moderator, Quality Control, Developer, DM

User avatar
OMEGA
Posts: 36
Joined: Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:11 pm

New Language: Gurri

Unread post by OMEGA »

Is possible to add new language to existing list? Gurri, a language of Gur of Baldur's Gate, has reason to be on language list.

See: https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Gur

Okay thanks.
___________________________

Johannes Evermore the Golden, Knight
Khelboros Kingswarden the Crusader
Cinnamon
Posts: 142
Joined: Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:25 pm

Re: New Language: Gurri

Unread post by Cinnamon »

I believe we already have Chondathan, is there a reason this isn't satisfactory to use? : o
Main Four
Bar, Thayvian Pupper // Cinnamon, Idealistic Heart // Chalk Hart, Sorceress of Amaunator // Joel, Emerald Commoner

Noa,
Laslow,
Gruum,
Truffles, Underdark
Chalice, Underdark
Caspar,
Tracey,
Penelope
User avatar
Valefort
Retired Admin
Posts: 9779
Joined: Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:07 pm
Location: France, GMT +2

Re: New Language: Gurri

Unread post by Valefort »

If you provide a list of Gurri words and their translations, yes.
Mealir Ostirel - Incorrigible swashbuckler
User avatar
Requiem
Posts: 70
Joined: Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:31 pm

Re: New Language: Gurri

Unread post by Requiem »

Hey Omega,

I play Gur as well. Gurri does not exist on the server, but as a stand in, I've used "Halardrim" being the largest influence to the language. I've heard in the past, other players and characters have done much the same. Not Gurri, but it's served its purpose. To each their own, however! Happy gaming.
Arturi Valdaska - Nomadic Smith and Tracker
One of the "People of the Highway" and forever a "Child of Selune"

-Biography-
User avatar
Planehopper
Posts: 2298
Joined: Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:50 pm

Re: New Language: Gurri

Unread post by Planehopper »

Jumping in to second Requiem, I've done the same in the past.

I think Steve played a Gur in the past (maybe still), he may offer insight i to what he's done.
User avatar
Steve
Recognized Donor
Posts: 8127
Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:42 am
Location: Paradise in GMT +1

Re: New Language: Gurri

Unread post by Steve »

I did once have a main Gur Character! I just settled for Chondathan, myself. Always did wish a Gurri option existed!

Talsorian the Conjuransmuter - The (someTIMEs) Traveler

The half-MAN, the MYrchanT(H), the LEGENDermaine ~ Jon Smythe [Bio]

Brinn Essebrenanath — Volamtar, seeking wisdom within the earth dream [Bio]
User avatar
Valefort
Retired Admin
Posts: 9779
Joined: Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:07 pm
Location: France, GMT +2

Re: New Language: Gurri

Unread post by Valefort »

This is the content of the 2da file for aragrakh

2DA V2.0

Key Value
0 <VERSION> 2
1 ^a e
2 ^A E
3 ^b po
4 ^B Po
5 ^c st
6 ^C St
7 ^d ty
8 ^D Ty
9 ^e i
10 ^E I
11 ^f w
12 ^F W
13 ^g k
14 ^G K
15 ^h ni
16 ^H Ni
17 ^i un
18 ^I Un
19 ^j vi
20 ^J Vi
21 ^k go
22 ^K Go
23 ^l ch
24 ^L Ch
25 ^m li
26 ^M Li
27 ^n ra
28 ^N Ra
29 ^o y
30 ^O Y
31 ^p ba
32 ^P Ba
33 ^Q X
34 ^q x
35 ^r hu
36 ^R Hu
37 ^s my
38 ^S My
39 ^t dr
40 ^T Dr
41 ^u on
42 ^U On
43 ^v fi
44 ^V Fi
45 ^w zi
46 ^W Zi
47 ^x qu
48 ^X Qu
49 ^y an
50 ^Y An
51 ^z ji
52 ^Z Ji
53 My Veth
54 Sword Caex
55 Enemy Irlim

Change it to fit Gurri and it can be added, the more words as in the lines 53-55, the better.
Mealir Ostirel - Incorrigible swashbuckler
User avatar
Planehopper
Posts: 2298
Joined: Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:50 pm

Re: New Language: Gurri

Unread post by Planehopper »

If you shoot over or post the file for Haladrim I'd be willing to tweak it to make it look and feel similar, since they are root-related in lore?

Thanks!
User avatar
Valefort
Retired Admin
Posts: 9779
Joined: Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:07 pm
Location: France, GMT +2

Re: New Language: Gurri

Unread post by Valefort »

2DA V2.0

Key Value
0 <VERSION> 2
1 ^a m
2 ^b t
3 ^c i
4 ^d h
5 ^e r
6 ^f r
7 ^g d
8 ^h e
9 ^i r
10 ^j s
11 ^k a
12 ^l k
13 ^m l
14 ^n a
15 ^o e
16 ^p l
17 ^q h
18 ^r t
19 ^s c
20 ^t h
21 ^u a
22 ^v a
23 ^w r
24 ^x R
25 ^y T
26 ^z I
27 ^A E
28 ^B S
29 ^C R
30 ^D S
31 ^E M
32 ^F E
33 ^G A
34 ^H C
35 ^I J
36 ^J R
37 ^K O
38 ^L O
39 ^M R
40 ^N F
41 ^O M
42 ^P R
43 ^Q I
44 ^R Y
45 ^S L
46 ^T T
47 ^U I
48 ^V E
49 ^W T
50 ^X He
51 ^Y A
52 ^Z 'X


That's Haladrim, not even specific words for this one i'm afraid !
Mealir Ostirel - Incorrigible swashbuckler
User avatar
Steve
Recognized Donor
Posts: 8127
Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:42 am
Location: Paradise in GMT +1

Re: New Language: Gurri

Unread post by Steve »

Only word I can find so far is a Halardrim word:

wychlaran = wise old women

Talsorian the Conjuransmuter - The (someTIMEs) Traveler

The half-MAN, the MYrchanT(H), the LEGENDermaine ~ Jon Smythe [Bio]

Brinn Essebrenanath — Volamtar, seeking wisdom within the earth dream [Bio]
User avatar
Steve
Recognized Donor
Posts: 8127
Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:42 am
Location: Paradise in GMT +1

Re: New Language: Gurri

Unread post by Steve »

It is altogether possible to add Rashemi words to Halardrim AND Gurri:

https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki ... dictionary
Halardrim...It was once spoken in the northlands of Rashemen, and some of its words were still present in the Rashemi language. It was considered an ancient dialect of Rashemi.

Scholars observed that Halardrim had had a strong influence on Gurri, the patois of the nomadic Gurs,[1] who were generally believed to be of Rashemi descent.[4]

Talsorian the Conjuransmuter - The (someTIMEs) Traveler

The half-MAN, the MYrchanT(H), the LEGENDermaine ~ Jon Smythe [Bio]

Brinn Essebrenanath — Volamtar, seeking wisdom within the earth dream [Bio]
User avatar
OMEGA
Posts: 36
Joined: Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:11 pm

Re: New Language: Gurri

Unread post by OMEGA »

Woa. Can this happen? Thank you very much.
___________________________

Johannes Evermore the Golden, Knight
Khelboros Kingswarden the Crusader
User avatar
OMEGA
Posts: 36
Joined: Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:11 pm

Re: New Language: Gurri

Unread post by OMEGA »

Valefort wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:28 pm If you provide a list of Gurri words and their translations, yes.
I take Aragrakh and Haladrim 2DA lines and mixmatch them to make a gurri language list, with extra words from Rashemi dictionary that have relation:

Gurri

2DA V2.0

Key Value
0 <VERSION> 2
1 ^a m
2 ^A E
3 ^b i
4 ^B Po
5 ^c r
6 ^C St
7 ^d d
8 ^D Ty
9 ^e r
10 ^E s
11 ^f w
12 ^F k
13 ^g k
14 ^G a
15 ^h ni
16 ^H l
17 ^i un
18 ^I t
19 ^j vi
20 ^J h
21 ^k go
22 ^K a
23 ^l ch
24 ^L R
25 ^m li
26 ^M I
27 ^n ra
28 ^N S
29 ^o y
30 ^O S
31 ^p ba
32 ^P E
33 ^q X
34 ^Q C
35 ^r hu
36 ^R R
37 ^s my
38 ^LS O
39 ^t dr
40 ^T F
41 ^u on
42 ^U R
43 ^v fi
44 ^V Y
45 ^w zi
46 ^W T
47 ^x qu
48 ^X E
49 ^y an
50 ^Y He
51 ^z ji
52 ^Z 'X
53 Wychlaran wise old woman
54 Bannik spirit of health
55 Cheznitznia shapeshifter
56 Dierneszkits zombies
57 Dvorovoi bad spirit
58 Morrigan being that moves between starlight and shadows
59 Prejhenovani one who summons evil
60 Vremyonni old ones

Can be added still?
___________________________

Johannes Evermore the Golden, Knight
Khelboros Kingswarden the Crusader
User avatar
DaloLorn
Posts: 2466
Joined: Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:44 am
Location: Discord (@dalolorn)

Re: New Language: Gurri

Unread post by DaloLorn »

A few things to consider:
  • Uppercase and lowercase characters should map to the same set of characters. For example: Either "a" should map to "e", or "A" should map to "M". "b" should map to "po", or "B" should map to "I", and so on.
  • The left side is what gets translated, while the right side is the translation. Furthermore, spaces are word delimiters, so no translations can be made for multiple-word combinations.
    • Rows 53, 54, 57, 58, 59, and 60 are right out.
    • Rows 55 and 56 could be reformulated as "shapeshifter cheznitznia" and "zombies dierneszkits".
    • "Dierneszkits" is possibly a singular, so "zombie". I'm guessing "zombies" would be "dierneszkitsi".
  • With the exception of the uppercase cipher (^A, ^B, etc.), dictionary entries cannot contain uppercase letters. You could do "shapeshifter Cheznitznia" (not that I'd agree with that decision in this context), but "Shapeshifter Cheznitznia" will never be picked up by the translator.
European player, UTC+1 (+2 during DST). Ex-fixer of random bits. Active in Discord.
Active characters:
  • Zeila Linepret
  • Ilhara Evrine
  • Linathyl Selmiyeritar
  • Belinda Ravenblood
  • Virin Swifteye
  • Gurzhuk
User avatar
Xorena
Posts: 725
Joined: Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:21 am
Location: East Coast US

Re: New Language: Gurri

Unread post by Xorena »

Unfortunately I took Chondathan on my Gur, so maybe if it becomes a real language I can get it switched out. Keep up the good work, all.
Eroica Hersbrucker, dungeon scout and hired blade

Helpful references:
Complete arcane spell list.
Post Reply

Return to “Mechanics”