First of all, exciting news. It's been a long while since we've seen fresh animations. I'll update the chat commands thread (and maybe beg someone to do a wiki page on it): viewtopic.php?f=149&t=19575
Note: These animations won't be in until our next update, but since it's the weekend, I figured I should do the forum legwork ahead of time while I'm thinking about it.
Hey Chambo, this is very exciting news and work! Cheers.
But, in your education about animations available to all Races, for example, there are already many existing, animations that Dwarves cannot use, for example.
Do you think maybe all animations could get to all races, one day?
Love the wacky waving inflatable arm flailing tube man animation. Brilliant work Chambo.
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chambordini wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:25 am
Animations are specific to skeletons, and those are gender specific themselves.
I'm only beginning to grasp what's called animation retargeting, which allows me to make the same animation for every race,
Anyway I doubt I'll revisit these, and instead focus on entirely new content.
SyntheticRose wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:25 am
When will girls get staffpose and sworddown? XD
I'm pretty sure Chambo said that they won't. Or probably won't as he would rather work on new content than revisit these again.
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I don’t this thing about ‘female model scrubbing floors’ should be dismissed
At best it’s a silly joke and to claim otherwise is disingenuous
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It was an animation that was created several years ago to make Ulgoth's Beard a uniquely detailed destination when it was originally released. The developer who made that particular location poured a lot of his efforts into it. For a long time, you could only fish at Ulgoth's Beard, etc.
Are people upset that the pose is being made available to players? Or is it just a case that we'd prefer even more (and perhaps more empowering) animations?
I mean, would we rather it not be available to players at all ... ?
Currently, Chambordini is the only staff member actively working on animations. He included this one because it was low-hanging fruit (since it already existed, it was something he could easily give players without a lot of extra work on his end). I know he has several other female skeleton based animations in the works as well. I'm positive that it was not his or the original developer's intent to offend or upset anyone: Just to allow for a more immersive world, with a greater variety of animations and poses for enhancing roleplay.
I hesitate to speak for anyone else, but it does look a bit odd when male skeletons get a bunch of cool poses, and the female human skeleton is reduced to scrubbing floors. That said, I have no doubt that there was no malicious intent behind this - if I had to guess, chambo was probably just working on what struck his fancy at the time and rolled everything out as is.
I'm relatively sure that there would be no issue with the assurance that female models will get some cool, empowering poses as well.
Love the work so far, by the way! The new animations are awesome. Can't wait to see what comes next.
Maecius wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2019 3:00 pm
I mean, would we rather it not be available to players at all ... ?
Yes. It would have been better if you had not made this animation available.
I find it very very hard to believe that you guys cannot see why it’s not at best silly and at worst problematic. I think it’s pretty odd that you won’t even admit that it’s a silly joke at least.
Community standards and sensitivity need to be supported and maintained.
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