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The wiki has been fully updated to account for deity additions and domain updates from this project. Individual deity and spell pages will be updated eventually, but the main articles are all set now. Going forward, please use the wiki for domain information, rather than the Google Sheet.

https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title=Deity
https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title=Cleric_Domains

This will be the last update to this thread, as this project can now be considered finished.
Hello! As some already know, I'm working on a rework and expansion to cleric domains. I am looking to have it done before the next patch (split 1.2), so that clerics will be able to take advantage of it before the 100% RCR period ends.

With the rework, domains will no longer have empty spaces. Every domain will have at least one feature (some have multiple, but in most cases the secondary feats are just skill feats), and a full roster of spells from level 1 to 9. There will also be some new domains.

Finally, the favored weapons for Sune, Loviatar, Beshaba, and Nephthys will be changed to their canonical favored weapon of whips. Hoar and Lurue may get changed to their canon weapons of shortspears as well.


Here is the list of most likely domain additions:

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Some disclaimers: Spells are mostly complete, some feats might have small changes.

Deity-Domain list should not be considered final as deliberation is still ongoing. List on left is more-or-less guaranteed and based mostly on canon domains, yellow list is likely additions but still need approval, red list is most likely cut for this update (but could be added in the future). Attempts are being made where possible to keep strong domains even with gods that don't have them canonically, but some gods will likely lose some domains where they can't be justified at all (so many random Luck domains). Other gods will gain domains.

Archfiend clerics are still up in the air.
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So, when is the server turning PG18? :D

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Ravial wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 3:06 pm Image

So, when is the server turning PG18? :D

Edit: Or rather, R or Adult rating <_<
There is surprisingly no Love domain before 4th edition. I might rename Chastity to Purity and Lust to Love, Passion, or Hedonism before it goes live, though.
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Love or Passion might be a good idea if you intend to keep it to the same deities. Hedonism is not a purview of every deity of love and beauty.
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I love this so much! Thanks for the work!

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Interesting. I wonder what spells were chosen for some of the domains. Also I don't see a dragon domain. :shifty:
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TheKai wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 3:39 pm I love this so much! Thanks for the work!

If you want help updating the wiki, let us know!
Happy to help with wiki editing also. We could split up the work if you want.
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Also coming soon: lots of nerf cleric threads
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Young Werther wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 4:22 pm Also I don't see a dragon domain. :shifty:
Just for you, there's now a Dragon domain.

Also Domination, Mysticism, Oracle, Pestilence, and Summoning.

Not added to the above picture as they still need to be put in the toolset.
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This is really an amazing effort, Rhifox! Hats off to you for taking this on, AND for trying to sneak it in before the end of the 100% RCR.

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Some people have asked if Demonic and Diabolic domains mean what they think it means.

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Yes. Yes it does.
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Rhifox wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:34 am Some people have asked if Demonic and Diabolic domains mean what they think it means.

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Pestilence domain doesn't exist in Faerun, though. Mysticism as well, among with some other domains on the general list. I have to ask, was this worked on with DMs? I thought that setting consistency is important.
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Ravial wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 4:21 pm Pestilence domain doesn't exist in Faerun, though. Mysticism as well, among with some other domains on the general list. I have to ask, was this worked on with DMs? I thought that setting consistency is important.
Pestilence and Mysticism were both actually planned for NWN2, they already have unused feats and icons in-game.

Also, setting consistency is important. But I see domains as largely game mechanic constructs to represent the powers a deity is able to grant followers, and were, as many things, something splat books kept churning out to encourage people to buy more products. Some domains, having come from non-FR splats, aren't explicitly linked to a deity as they were never compiled in an FR-specific sourcebook, but the powers they confer can be clearly attributed to various FR deities, like Pestilence for Talona. Of course, I think Spheres from 2e were a vastly better representation of the powers a deity could confer to their followers, but 3e+ wanted to homogenize priest classes, so, eh...

Now, all that being said, I am a dev, and it was a lot easier to just do all of these in one lump batch. The new domains haven't even been considered for which deities they should be linked to as that is something that comes pretty late in the development cycle. If a DM decides they don't want a specific domain for any reason, it is very simple to flag it removed and turn it off.
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Absolutely beautiful work. Just having access to these expands our world, and personally any addition at this point to the game that enhances the playing experience I'm all for. :D
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