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Re: Coming Soon: Melee Combat Upgrade

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Blame The Rogue wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:46 pm question about improved kd. if you take kd you get imp kd free? now kd itself, not imp kd, raises the creature size by one of what you can knock down? and why does staff feel the ab nerf to use imp kd is necessary? and why does using kd now provoke an aoo from the foe? i dont follow the logic
Normal KD (which has the AOO) is free for all characters. Improved KD is now what you take with feats, and removes the AOO and increases the size bonus. Both new KDs also take int account Enlarge (and Reduced) Person for the purpose of size modifiers.

So, if you currently have Improved KD, you will now have a bonus feat to spend on something else. If you currently have normal KD, you will now have Improved KD.

The only ones that have to worry about the AOO are people with the free version of KD.
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ty. i understand

why the ab penalty for use?
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Blame The Rogue wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 5:46 pm ty. i understand

why the ab penalty for use?
What AB penalty?
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Will Flurry of Blows (Monk) be useable along with Fighting Defensively?

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ah, apologies, i misread, ab penalty only applies to ranged pcs attempting to attack a prone opponent

ty for the clarification
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Steve wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:14 pm Will Flurry of Blows (Monk) be useable along with Fighting Defensively?
Yes.
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Rhifox wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:17 am
Steve wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:14 pm Will Flurry of Blows (Monk) be useable along with Fighting Defensively?
Yes.
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Rhifox wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:17 am
Steve wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:14 pm Will Flurry of Blows (Monk) be useable along with Fighting Defensively?
Yes.
Whew! I was…nervous, to say the least—after replanning my monk over the last weeks, a doubt was seeded in my mind.

Now, I can ask: what about Athkatlan Triparate + Fighting Defensively? And thus: Flurry of Blows + Fighting Defensively + Athkatlan?

Cheers.

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Steve wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:19 am
Rhifox wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:17 am
Steve wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:14 pm Will Flurry of Blows (Monk) be useable along with Fighting Defensively?
Yes.
Whew! I was…nervous, to say the least—after replanning my monk over the last weeks, a doubt was seeded in my mind.

Now, I can ask: what about Athkatlan Triparate + Fighting Defensively? And thus: Flurry of Blows + Fighting Defensively + Athkatlan?

Cheers.
These can all be used together.
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Rhifox wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:28 am
Steve wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:19 am
Rhifox wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:17 am

Yes.
Whew! I was…nervous, to say the least—after replanning my monk over the last weeks, a doubt was seeded in my mind.

Now, I can ask: what about Athkatlan Triparate + Fighting Defensively? And thus: Flurry of Blows + Fighting Defensively + Athkatlan?

Cheers.
These can all be used together.
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Steve wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:10 am
Rhifox wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:28 am
Steve wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:19 am

Whew! I was…nervous, to say the least—after replanning my monk over the last weeks, a doubt was seeded in my mind.

Now, I can ask: what about Athkatlan Triparate + Fighting Defensively? And thus: Flurry of Blows + Fighting Defensively + Athkatlan?

Cheers.
These can all be used together.
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Obviously monks need more ac 😂😂😂
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mrm3ntalist wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:02 am
Obviously monks need more ac 😂😂😂
Shush you! Go play that Total Defense Duelist!!

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Steve wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:41 am
mrm3ntalist wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:02 am
Obviously monks need more ac 😂😂😂
Shush you! Go play that Total Defense Duelist!!
:cry: :cry: :cry:

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Shield bash is in collision with FD.

When you toggle on FD it turns off shield bash.

When you toggle on shield bash it turns off FD BUT:
Penalties and bonuses remain. Shield bash does not work. Until you manually toggle FD off and modifiers go away.

Is shield bash supposed to work along FD?
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JIŘÍ wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:18 am Shield bash is in collision with FD.

When you toggle on FD it turns off shield bash.

When you toggle on shield bash it turns off FD BUT:
Penalties and bonuses remain. Shield bash does not work. Until you manually toggle FD off and modifiers go away.

Is shield bash supposed to work along FD?
Can you please give more info? I can't reproduce the issue with shield bash and FD on my own PC.
They both get turned off/on separately when i click them and they don't seem to overlap. Codewise they don't overlap as well.
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