RP-Critique/Support/Self Monitoring Club

[drumtheweasel]

Thanks obvious_illusion! You know the 21st century attitude I understand what you see, but the funny thing is Tahlia is truly a side character to him. Our last conversation is how most of his coversations with other characters consist of. What I'm saying is you've barely scratched his surface to understand that as a character he has lived what he believes in and believes it with all his heart. He believes that good is good and that evil is evil and that it is not a grey area and so he chooses to live his life choosing to do good. He has plenty of internal emotions that come out when around those that knew him well.
Anyway, thank you so much for your response and I hope what I said will help Tahlia and Mateo have even more fun roleplaying because Mateo is drooling to have a debate on morality with her! Seeing as it's what she's studying! See you soon!

[delusional]

Anyway, thank you so much for your response and I hope what I said will help Tahlia and Mateo have even more fun roleplaying because Mateo is drooling to have a debate on morality with her! Seeing as it's what she's studying! See you soon!

Tahlia wins the debate before it starts. Maybe.

[Inlaa]

I'm kind'a interested in what you UDers think of Reia In-Character. She's been fun for me to play, but I'm not sure she gives off the feelings and ideas I want her to. So, what do y'all think?

[drumtheweasel]

Hey Obvious_illusion first, and then every rper that wants to get involved in the converstaion, I've been thinking a lot about your post and have slept on it, and I think this is an appropriate place to have the discussion. I was wondering what you and other rpers think of in character morality.

To start it off, I want to make sure that I am absolutely clear that I am talking about my character and how I play him in game.

Mateo is a character that believes that Good and Truth, the capital "g" and "t" are important, exist in the sense that they are universal things that can not be changed. The idea being that whatever you do can be absolutely good or absolutely evil and that there is no middle ground. I play him with the idea that there is a god of good, more explicitly Lliira, a goddes of celebration, happiness, festivals and good, that is holding him accountable for what he does.
Let me give you an example.
Tahlia and Mateo were on the dm quest together for the spirit. During that quest Tahlia had spoken of the spirit's agony and pain of being trapped in this world as "romantic". As I understood it, Tahlia was looking at the situation of the through her eyes and interpretation and seeing the spirit's plight as a great story. An excellent way to learn something new. A symbol of something enduring through years of pain searching for a way out. Mateo understood this to be what Tahlia meant and believed that her choice to act on this thought was an absolutely evil way to choose to think about the situation. It was evil to Mateo because it was a completely self centered reason to motivate oneself to help the spirit. Mateo believed that it was a horribly selfish interpretation of what was going on and was trying to show Tahlia, it's important to understand that Mateo more often than not is relying on showing people by example instead of just telling them. Mateo had absolutely nothing to do with that spirit. His motivation, number one was, I know Tahlia. Number two, Tahlia might need help. Number three now that I know this spirit is in pain, what can I do to set it free for no other reason than I want to stop it's pain. And then how can I use this experience to help others understand right and wrong and live a good life.
What he was hoping Tahlia would pick up on were his own reasons for saving the spirit. It was a sentient being of some sort in pain. He wasn't interested in personal gain. When given the chance for personal gain at the end of it he asked for peace for all of Faerun from within. It's not that he had nothing he wanted. It's not that he wasn't angry with Tahlia for choosing to do what she did for the reasons she did, but instead he choose to do what was Right instead of what was selfish and when given the opportunity for a wish, wished for some thing that would benefit everyone and not just himself. How often does one get the wish that they were offered? He wasn't about to waste it on himself. You see the thought process?
It's also important to note that Mateo believes every sentient being has a choice. It is what they choose to do that makes them good or evil.
Now, as for 21st century I was hoping you could explain that more and I was also hoping that more rpers would like to hop into the conversation. As I understand it, relativism and the idea that there is no good or evil is the modern way to look at things. Good as an absolute has been around as long as I know in history. And actually, the idea of Good being absolute has been the root of much evil in the real world through out history as well. It has also been the source of epic kindness that most people didn't think humans were capable of. Anyone have thoughts on this?
At any rate, just some more thought I wanted to share with you as an rper and for the rest of the people that are interested enough in rp to check this thread. Hope to hear some replies to my post!

[Catam]

I like the way you are developing Mateo and definitely have comments on the philosophies of absolute good vs absolute evil in relation to the RP of a character. I believe that all philosophies are potentially united and possible to sustain in a character in the D&D world either through deities, races or the characters' developments and backgrounds. Even 21st century ideals of all is fuzzy grey are here. It is the responsibility of the player to have a firmly rooted philosophy, whether or not that philosophy is subject to change. I look at the RP in the respect as a logical process of cause and effect... action and reaction. If you call that halfling little, will she take offense? If you pour the last swallow of ale in your tankard onto the ground, will the dwarf want to rip your head off? If you try to take Bak's hat off his head, will he allow it? If you spit on the altar at the Temple of Tyr, will the paladin put a boot to your arse? Will helping the Thayan knight who is on the ground bleeding mean that in the future, someone will be enslaved?

"...know this, adventurer, every decision you make has a circumstance, whether reward or punishment. In the end, only the gods will know the result of every lot cast. There is no right or wrong to them, only outcome. The wrath of the righteous and the deeds of evil both can kill the innocent and reward malevolence. Choose wisely..."

Sometimes players don't have any more thought than "This will be funny" or "I'm bored, let's cause trouble." It is up to the player to understand the principles of of his character's philosophy and act accordingly. Well done, Mateo... well done...

[Xanfyrst]

Mateo is a character that believes that Good and Truth, the capital "g" and "t" are important, exist in the sense that they are universal things that can not be changed. The idea being that whatever you do can be absolutely good or absolutely evil and that there is no middle ground. I play him with the idea that there is a god of good, more explicitly Lliira, a goddes of celebration, happiness, festivals and good, that is holding him accountable for what he does.

I think you should have a chat with Elessar some day. That'll be interesting (he's True Neutral and doesn't believe in extremes, even if some of his actions or viewpoints may sound radical to some)

Bug me IG sometime, if you want a philosophical discussion

[drumtheweasel]

I'll find you soon I'm sure! If you wanted to be proactive... there are definitely enough people on that could rope you in to my sub plot without even chance meeting me.

[HollowerFollower]

I don't play as often as I'd like, but I do try to interact with others when I can. So, while it may be a bit early to ask, I'm curious as to what people think about my two main characters: Vorshon Orworl, my water genasi Helmite, and Cale Karanth, my.. other guy.

I also have my new wizened sorceress, Krynda Kae, that I've been trying to slowly advance, but its definitely a pain when you're a spellcaster all by your lonesome. She's interacted with a few, so if there's anyone that's met her that wants to chime in, they can.

I appreciate any thoughts or advice, in the hopes that it will help me to get a better handle on my characters and where I'm trying to go with them.

[Vlaid]

I'm not sure I follow precisely what this thread is for. But if it's similar to the PVP Club but for people who would prefer to be a bit more serious/hardcore RP'ers, sign me up.

Been finding it hard to link up with people who want tell a story and have active events and agendas to push beyond mere grinding/leveling.

Playing something of a honorable mercenary who will do most anything to get the job done once he's agreed to do it. Leaves me open to a lot of options....but I've been having trouble finding anyone who has much to involve a freelance mercenary! PM me if you have something for me. I'm quite flexible as long as it's not completely debase evil without remorse, that might be hard to swing.

[Kenshin]

I'm not sure I follow precisely what this thread is for. But if it's similar to the PVP Club but for people who would prefer to be a bit more serious/hardcore RP'ers, sign me up.

Been finding it hard to link up with people who want tell a story and have active events and agendas to push beyond mere grinding/leveling.

Playing something of a honorable mercenary who will do most anything to get the job done once he's agreed to do it. Leaves me open to a lot of options....but I've been having trouble finding anyone who has much to involve a freelance mercenary! PM me if you have something for me. I'm quite flexible as long as it's not completely debase evil without remorse, that might be hard to swing.

This thread is mostly a feel good exercise and a chance to consult others on roleplay experiences, in other words, it is a sounding board. It is too general to tie down with the details of a granular examination of specific encounters. It is also not a workshop and replies to posts are not a given.

To a degree I can understand your frustration at finding like-minded players. At the same time, I do recall offering you a chance to roleplay with me, which you politely declined. Regardless, I would say that once you build some solid relationships with other players, the roleplay opportunities will noticeably increase for you.

Your post reminded me of my failed attempt to build a PnP style group towards the tail end of last year (before I took a 3 month break from the server). At any rate, your post as well as the appearance of other players seeking quality roleplay have me considering renewing the effort. Quixotic the effort may turn out to be, but tilting at windmills has a certain charm all its own, even if it is mentally draining.

[Hoihe]

Alas, hoihe could join this club, so is his player, who coincidentally calls himself hoihe everywhere on the web of Copper wires and sendings (with pictures and more than 25 words!)

[Hoihe]

Ahoy, recently been randomly reading through D20srd and found this:

"Silver dragons are perhaps most likely of all dragons to have taken humanoid companions, and thus this is the most common dragon bloodline. Characters of the silver dragon bloodline tend to be regal and statuesque. "


Well, Hoihe's tall,so Statuesque is check. But does he come of as regal or more like a jester or prehaps a mix?

[Vlaid]

I'm not sure I follow precisely what this thread is for. But if it's similar to the PVP Club but for people who would prefer to be a bit more serious/hardcore RP'ers, sign me up.

Been finding it hard to link up with people who want tell a story and have active events and agendas to push beyond mere grinding/leveling.

Playing something of a honorable mercenary who will do most anything to get the job done once he's agreed to do it. Leaves me open to a lot of options....but I've been having trouble finding anyone who has much to involve a freelance mercenary! PM me if you have something for me. I'm quite flexible as long as it's not completely debase evil without remorse, that might be hard to swing.

This thread is mostly a feel good exercise and a chance to consult others on roleplay experiences, in other words, it is a sounding board. It is too general to tie down with the details of a granular examination of specific encounters. It is also not a workshop and replies to posts are not a given.

To a degree I can understand your frustration at finding like-minded players. At the same time, I do recall offering you a chance to roleplay with me, which you politely declined. Regardless, I would say that once you build some solid relationships with other players, the roleplay opportunities will noticeably increase for you.

Your post reminded me of my failed attempt to build a PnP style group towards the tail end of last year (before I took a 3 month break from the server). At any rate, your post as well as the appearance of other players seeking quality roleplay have me considering renewing the effort. Quixotic the effort may turn out to be, but tilting at windmills has a certain charm all its own, even if it is mentally draining.

I've been rather busy lately and it seemed like everytime someone did want to RP, I was about to go to bed or didn't have much time.

Alas....not around here much lately to further my failed RP attempts.

[Hoihe]

This is how i RP my Low wisdom, High charisma:

- Bold & Confident (Wisdom means perception of danger and etc, Charisma can mean confidence) a bit too much
- Always get in a sort of trouble by doing something that seems good at the moment (Today's drinking game)
- The ability to threaten someone who can turn Hoihe into dust with a flick of finger
- Speaks before thinking
- Reckless
- Seek danger without looking at ways to avoid it.

[mrieder79]

Do you think it is viable that a character with average (10) wisdom would be cautious and avoid confrontation unless in extenuating circumstances, or should I RP a little more brash since my wisdom is only 10?