Two weapon fighter build

[darwin.evenwood]

Hi there.

May you take a look at these builds i created and tell me wich one would be better for PvE?

http://nwn2db.com/build/?282560

http://nwn2db.com/build/?282562

Thanks!

[Theodore01]

The first one, but both have bad defense.

I played (and enjoyed) a dual waraxeing char. f12,derv10,temp5,ro3 once.
If i would do it again, i would probably take SD instead of rogue.

You could even switch to light weapons, grab deadly defense and ICE.

[aaron22]

you may not understand the frustration of playing a low AC build until you do it. consider PrCs that can boost your defenses and then math up the ACs at 5,10,15 etc. there will be several things to consider and there may be some gaps in there, but it would help you out so you dont play a toon for 4 months to find that your AC is too low at level 18 and up.

[Theodore01]

Yeah, some years ago a build with ~44ac was playable and one with 50ac was considered good.

Nowadays much more is needed in some epic areas, like an AC of 55+,
barely any armored melee will reach that.

[Sun Wukong]

http://nwn2db.com/build/?94008

[Valefort]

Yeah, some years ago a build with ~44ac was playable and one with 50ac was considered good.

Nowadays much more is needed in some epic areas, like an AC of 55+,
barely any armored melee will reach that.

Time to go back there ~

[Lockonnow]

use umd for wands ac

[Thorsson]

TBH it's ridiculous that normal builds have to have a sackful of of wands to get an AC that is barely survivable. It would be better if the bar was set lower, but there were also mobs that presented other challenges.

[darwin.evenwood]

Thanks everyone for the suggestions.

without any wand it will be around 46 AC, maybe adding ICE i would gain those good 6 points of AC.
Would the AB be enough in that case?

Which kind of other PRCs could i add to improve the AC? I thought that evasion and expose weakness would have been better than a couple of points of AC. Any thought or suggestion?

[darwin.evenwood]

Well i worked on a different build

http://nwn2db.com/build/?282579

It would be a very different gamestyle i think. Anyway with ICE always on and the inspiration + wrath to get a bit more of AB and damage could be good. what do you think?

Would be better to go with the first build (evasion and EW), the one posted by Sun Wukong or this new one?

Thanks again!

[Theodore01]

pirate7,bard8 is a better split = nets you one more inspire courage.

p10,b8,t5,wm7 works very good - even better with 2 kukris and full dex. ICE + deadly defense.

[darwin.evenwood]

Thanks i switched to pirate 7 / bard 8.
i am also changing some stats to be able to use some situational bardic spell.
I need to choose between some spells and +1 AB and damage pumping Str of 1 point.

I will have a look at the WM combo.

Thanks

[Rask]

TBH it's ridiculous that normal builds have to have a sackful of of wands to get an AC that is barely survivable. It would be better if the bar was set lower, but there were also mobs that presented other challenges.

100% Agree. This servers enemies in later levels and their absurd amounts of AB/AC and damage mean you either play a min/maxed build or gtfo in the epic areas. With my fighter I had to really cheese it up and get stuff like Divine Shield and +4 items to be able to get AC that stood up to epic areas.

Regular non power builds just don't stand a chance in later levels, which is really sad. It pigeon-holes people completely with their builds. It did not used to be this way.

[mrm3ntalist]

In which areas you need to "cheese up", against which mobs and how much AC you "feel" you need?

[Sun Wukong]

Probably Frost Giants, because a long time ago just about any level 25-27 character could overcome the frost giants on their own if they approached with care and enough healing kits. These days... you really need some class abilities that increase AC, and UMD on top, and a proper party...

That place needs a warnign sign.