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Self-Concealment and Epic Fighter Bonus feats. Can a Fighter take Self-Concealment feats with Fighter levels 22, 24, 26, 28, and 30?

Today, Self-Concealment should only require Dexterity of 25, Hide 30, Move Silently 30, and Tumble 30.

I just do not have a level 30 character to test it out myself.

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mrm3ntalist wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:46 pm Only the fighter bonus epic feats ( fighter 20+ ) allow to pick self concealment. It is not available for the re pic Fighter bonus feats.
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YYA wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:42 pm Self-Concealment and Epic Fighter Bonus feats. Can a Fighter take Self-Concealment feats with Fighter levels 22, 24, 26, 28, and 30?

Today, Self-Concealment should only require Dexterity of 25, Hide 30, Move Silently 30, and Tumble 30.

I just do not have a level 30 character to test it out myself.

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mrm3ntalist wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:46 pm Only the fighter bonus epic feats ( fighter 20+ ) allow to pick self concealment. It is not available for the re pic Fighter bonus feats.
It doesnt require move silently. Only hide and tumble 30
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mrm3ntalist wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 4:08 pmIt doesnt require move silently. Only hide and tumble 30
Oh, you are right. Well, usually only a stealth build would go for it, so... That is where my mix up arises. Hmn... It does open up things for great consideration. :lol:
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Does Ranger's Two-Weapon Fighting line of feats count for achieving feat prerequsite for Perfect Two-Weapon Fighting?
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AlfarinIcebreaker wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:29 amDoes Ranger's Two-Weapon Fighting line of feats count for achieving feat prerequsite for Perfect Two-Weapon Fighting?
Yes, a Ranger 11/Something Else 19 with 25 Dexterity can take the Perfect Two-Weapon Fighting Feat in default NWN2. Just as a ranger with Archery Combat Style could take the One Shot feat, and even when he already has it from his Ranger level progression.
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How exactly does favored power attack feat work? It doesn't seem to actually multiply your power attack damage.

For example, I ran test on a ranger who has 10-15 damage with a 2-handed weapon (club) and 22-27 with Improved power attack accordingly. You'd think you should logically receive +24 damage bonus (12x3), or at least +12 (6x3, disregarding 2-handed holding). But my most frequent damage roll became 31, meaning I basically received less than 10 to damage bonus, which doesn't make sense. How exactly this feat works? Does it synergize with berserker's enhanced power attacks? Etc.
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KOPOJIbPAKOB wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:04 amHow exactly does favored power attack feat work? It doesn't seem to actually multiply your power attack damage.
Scroll down to the bottom to see the table and the discussion: https://nwn2.fandom.com/wiki/Talk:Favored_Power_Attack

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" The feats do work together. However not in the fashion described above. Enhanced power attack is a static +2 power attack damage modifier (+4 improved power attack modifier) that gets added to the power attack damage before all the doubling and tripling gets applied. "

No Enchantments:
PA 3 (OH) 6 (TH)
IPA 6 (OH) 12 (TH)

Enchanced Power Attack:
PA 5 (OH) 10 (TH)
IPA 10 (OH) 20 (TH)

Favored Power Attack:
PA 6 (OH) 12 (TH)
IPA 9 (OH) 18 (TH)

Both:
PA 10 (OH) 20 (TH)
IPA 15 (OH) 30 (TH)


#EDIT:
If it is not clear...

When the game considers multiplication, what it actually multiplies is the base damage of the regular Power Attack. Thus Improved Power Attack is just "Power Attack * 2" and with the Favored Power Attack feat it becomes "Power Attack * 3".
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This is actually accurate to my testing i did just now.

If you wield two hander, the formula is not 6 (IPA) * 2(two-hander) * 3(FPA), it's 6 * (2 (two-hander) + 1 (FPA)), thus 6 * 3.
It works exactly this way in game.
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EasternCheesE wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 8:25 am This is actually accurate to my testing i did just now.

If you wield two hander, the formula is not 6 (IPA) * 2(two-hander) * 3(FPA), it's 6 * (2 (two-hander) + 1 (FPA)), thus 6 * 3.
It works exactly this way in game.
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