Baldur's Gate : The Sword Coast Chronicles : NWN2 Persistent World

Aelcar wrote:

dzidek1983 wrote:maybe make a Thaumaturgist summon a "black orc" type of creature

so freakin buffed cos it resembles an army of smaller creatures

You mean an Amnian Golden Legionnaire with 80+ spot, dealing 60 dmg x hit and with 500 HP ...

would be cool... wouldnt need to waste spell slots to buff him

ohboy007 wrote:As for permanent summons, actually I think we should have them. CGU lasts for how long in PnP? Dominate lasts how long in PnP? Days my friend, days. But that is a whole other subject and considering NWN2's limitations, I'm not that concerned about implementing "normal" spell durations for these spells because I know many people's heads would explode as well.

In PnP, CU and CGU are permanent. But the created undead is NOT under the control of the caster.

For reference:
http://dndtools.eu/spells/players-handb ... ead--2724/
http://dndtools.eu/spells/players-handb ... ead--2723/

Deathgrowl wrote:

ohboy007 wrote:As for permanent summons, actually I think we should have them. CGU lasts for how long in PnP? Dominate lasts how long in PnP? Days my friend, days. But that is a whole other subject and considering NWN2's limitations, I'm not that concerned about implementing "normal" spell durations for these spells because I know many people's heads would explode as well.

In PnP, CU and CGU are permanent. But the created undead is NOT under the control of the caster.

For reference:
http://dndtools.eu/spells/players-handb ... ead--2724/
http://dndtools.eu/spells/players-handb ... ead--2723/

7th lv Control Undead spell would be needed yes. And well worth it IMO.

Aelcar wrote:

dzidek1983 wrote:maybe make a Thaumaturgist summon a "black orc" type of creature

so freakin buffed cos it resembles an army of smaller creatures

You mean an Amnian Golden Legionnaire with 80+ spot, dealing 60 dmg x hit and with 500 HP ...

*Instantly snorts milk out of his nose laughing* Hahaha! Don't forget immune to bigbys and mind effects. If not immune, he had one hell of a SR. Tough fight for anyone, especially a multi-classed 21st level sorceress combo.

Blah, blah, blah.

Let me go out on a limb here, and say the obvious. The majority of caster players are so power hungry and so lazy, they won't even bother to read spell descriptions.

Actually, what is wanted by most casters, more so MAGES, is easy power a means to kill all and be epic, with NO effort.

Sound about right?

Here's some "magic" :

There's going to be a lot of posts telling me Im arrogant, blah blah.
Then there's going to be some posts how mages need more power.
Then there's going to be talk about how hard it is to level a mage ... (LOOOOOL)
And then there will be moderation by the team.



Or:

I can break it down easy.

If you play caster, any kind of caster, and you have trouble? Well, guess what. That's entirely your own mistake. Good huh?

So stop MOANING like little sissy girls if you play a caster, and PERHAPS try to get some skill.

Bree. out. Bunch of bwah, meh, meh *goat sounds* You
GET.

MY point. Yes?
If not, go play archer, or fighter, or anything NOT a caster.

Bunch of sissies, that's what most casters are. Clueless, no effort to learn lore, DnD ruls (as per spells) no effort to learn SPELLS they can themselves cast, no EFFORT.

Why?

Because you want to rule the world with magic. Well, go for it, players like me and Aelcar will show you how incredibly you SUCK at playing caster.

If you want to play caster, you have NO right. At all. To complain about ANYTHING. If you do.. and you feel it's not "balanced" ...

I have news. It's not because it's not "balanced" or what not.
It.

Is.

Because.

YOU.

Cannot.

Play.

Caster.

So STOP the whining.
And:

L2p.

This thread has run it's course, fun's been had.

Locked.