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Re: Spell / Scroll / Feat Bugs
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:02 am
by Blackman D
ALL epic spells use +5
its 10 (base) + 10 (spell level) + 5 (epic spell bonus) + stat mod
so 25 + mod, you seriously got rid of the +5
if so it needs to go back

Re: Spell / Scroll / Feat Bugs
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:02 am
by Eldebryn
Rasael wrote:Greater Ruin was set to use CasterLevel +5 - I think it's supposed to be 20 + Ability modifier.
I have the impression that Epic spells so far used the same formula as regular spells for DCs, except treating their spell level as 10.
so in my case for instance that would be:
10[base DC] + 10 [spell level] + 10[Int. mod.]+ 5 [the bonus all epic spells receive] = 35
Edit: Damn.. BMD is too fast

Re: Spell / Scroll / Feat Bugs
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:12 am
by Rasael
You got Ninja'd - I think Hell ball isn't using the +5 and I'm using the script I got for that one so it probably never has.
Greater Ruin was set to use CasterLevel + 5 (not 10 + 10 + INT + 5)
Re: Spell / Scroll / Feat Bugs
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:15 am
by Blackman D
hellball should be, the DC was what it should be with my sorceress, 25 + 7 = 32 DC
and my greater ruin had the DC that it should of had with my cleric so, not really sure what you mean

Re: Spell / Scroll / Feat Bugs
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:20 am
by Eldebryn
Rasael wrote:You got Ninja'd - I think Hell ball isn't using the +5 and I'm using the script I got for that one so it probably never has.
Greater Ruin was set to use CasterLevel + 5 (not 10 + 10 + INT + 5)
If that was the problem in the code isn't it a little odd since I had a CL of 21...?
Re: Spell / Scroll / Feat Bugs
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:22 am
by Rasael
I think your casterlevel +5 is 27 according to the game so you count as level 22 - that might have something to do with being an ECL race or a feat or ???.
I'm also positive that Hellball is not adding 5 - it's 20 + Ability
(Spell Save DC)
This is your regular NWN2 casterlevel calculation, I haven't changed that in anyway.
Re: Spell / Scroll / Feat Bugs
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:33 am
by Eldebryn
Rasael wrote:I think your casterlevel +5 is 27 according to the game so you count as level 22 - that might have something to do with being an ECL race or a feat or ???.
I'm also positive that Hellball is not adding 5 - it's 20 + Ability
(Spell Save DC)
Well it should add +5:
http://nwn2.wikia.com/wiki/Hellball
As for the CL, I have nothing that may increase my CL beyond my HD... sounds weird and race
should have no impact on that.
Re: Spell / Scroll / Feat Bugs
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:38 am
by Rasael
It's what the stock game thinks your casterlevel is - It seems to think you a level higher than you are. Drow is ECL + 2 or + 1 on BGTSCC?
Re: Spell / Scroll / Feat Bugs
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:43 am
by Eldebryn
Rasael wrote:It's what the stock game thinks your casterlevel is - It seems to think you a level higher than you are. Drow is ECL + 2 or + 1 on BGTSCC?
+2
Re: Spell / Scroll / Feat Bugs
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:14 am
by Rasael
Well I suppose we should dub this Eldebryns rule of Casterlevel adjustment due to awesomeness - I can't think of a reason why the game would increase your CL like that.
Re: Spell / Scroll / Feat Bugs
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:33 am
by Ivan38Rus
What about the epic spellcaster thingie? It is supposed to increase the DC, as far as I remember
Re: Spell / Scroll / Feat Bugs
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:50 am
by Eldebryn
Ivan38Rus wrote:What about the epic spellcaster thingie? It is supposed to increase the DC, as far as I remember
At caster levels 23,26,29 etc... I am CL 21, and yet I had DC 27 on g.ruin which according to Rasael's info indicates CL 22.
*shrugs*
Re: Spell / Scroll / Feat Bugs
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:55 am
by Blackman D
well my sorceress is human so... no ECL for her
and the epic DC bonuses dont apply to epic spells, probably because they are feats and not actual spells
Re: Spell / Scroll / Feat Bugs
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:09 pm
by Eldebryn
Ok, I just noticed something even weirder... When I noticed that 27 DC I used ruin a 2nd time to confirm, and it was still 27 indeed.
A little while ago, I logged inside the game again, after resting I used it two more times. The first time the DC was 32 and the second one it was 26.
Re: Spell / Scroll / Feat Bugs
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:27 pm
by Rasael
Something is very wrong This wasn't happening before the spell hook so it must be related <_<
I'm running my tests but it seems to be related only to that spell.