Baldur's Gate : The Sword Coast Chronicles : NWN2 Persistent World

It can be done with a powerbuilt wizard.

AC would need to be no less than 55-60 though when fully buffed and there would bee a lot of hasting and running involved but it could be done.

Need about 3 Avasculates, Greater Magic Missile Empowered 2-3, Lesser Magic Missile Maximized about 2-3, Orb of Force as many as you can fit........

Now, when you run out of offensive spells, or haste......

Elemental Shield Extended, Death Armor Extended and finally Tenser's extended going to work with ranged weapons if possible, or sword & board to up the AC.

Offensive spells alone won't do it but if you can get him down low enough, hang on and hope by hitting you he is damaging himself as well as you......

You might have a chance

I tried to avasculate the black dragon the other day and didn't work well, think bosses have bonus HP that doesn't register for avasculate / vamp feast, though haven't tested on the balor. Just be wary of that.

Oh for speed use expedious retreat and save your haste slots for offensive orbs

Wouldn't a good start to this battle be to open it with a Shadow Simulacrum? Suddenly the Balor has a physical foe as good as it, while you can sneak around behind your new buddy and toss spells.

Cel'Daren wrote:Wouldn't a good start to this battle be to open it with a Shadow Simulacrum? Suddenly the Balor has a physical foe as good as it, while you can sneak around behind your new buddy and toss spells.

Lol, I would just be scared to run up and play touch with him right off the bat. He might blow through your DR right then and there but it is certainly an interesting idea

Cel'Daren wrote:Wouldn't a good start to this battle be to open it with a Shadow Simulacrum? Suddenly the Balor has a physical foe as good as it, while you can sneak around behind your new buddy and toss spells.

I thought the spell didn't work on bosses

flipside43 wrote:I tried to avasculate the black dragon the other day and didn't work well, think bosses have bonus HP that doesn't register for avasculate / vamp feast, though haven't tested on the balor. Just be wary of that.

Oh for speed use expedious retreat and save your haste slots for offensive orbs

I know that Avasculate works on the dragon in the wyrm tunnel tho.

Avasculate does not work with balor. Checked.
Balor can be killed by wizard, but you need to use much more money then you will get from balor. Just buy scrolls of Great Isaak Missle Storm and use it, use it, use it...

I can understand immunity to negative level, but avasculate too? Isn't it too much?

Deathgrowl wrote:Is it immune to bigby?

If not, bigby it and put acid clouds under it. Doubt it'll be enough, but hey.

Wizards can't kill things alone. Too few spells.

Bigby seems to do physical damage per the wiki. I don't think it will bypass the 15/CR 15/good? damage resistance. The problem is that balors are immune to lightning and fire, and have DR against acid and cold. I don't know of any continuous damage spells that are enough to do much damage over 10/dr or would be sonic, magic, or divine in nature. The Balor had a hard time hitting Lucy and Alexis so it would stand to reason that a for power build warlock that maximizes potential AC would be able to solo it without too much issue.

Molag__Bal wrote:Can you still transition out mid-battle, re-buff, and then transition back in? I'm pretty sure testmon managed to kill the balor with this sly tactic, though the character in question was a sorcerer.

Though, that might have been back when it was 50% vulnerable to fire damage...

nooo i never did that. i did that once with the dracolich, asked the DMs if that is allowed and got told it is not.





edit: though the balor was possible to kill with my Sorc in one run, before the Devs decided to give him some more giants as backup. not since then. and even back then it was basically a thing of the last spell. like, 80% of the time i killed it with one of my last 3 spells or i had to run for it. that was before i saw that he is vulnurable to fire.

Were you using damage spells, like Isaacs or Polar Rays? Maybe it's possible to have enough spells as a Sorc, should be much harder for a wizard.

Eden wrote:Were you using damage spells, like Isaacs or Polar Rays? Maybe it's possible to have enough spells as a Sorc, should be much harder for a wizard.

yes, i used those, also vampiric feast and a buffed up Balor. though a Wiz should be able to use a better spell selection on the thing, i had to use meta magic around.
but frankly, that was when the balor still only had two fire elementals as guards.

(i basically made a list of what he resists and how much. i think he resists negative energy to 50% and acid only to 25%, but that was a year ago)

also, do not underestimate the Wizzards ability to choose spells. i had to go along with what i got. a Wizard could try to use whatever the Balor is weakest to.

Don't think he got any weakness, I'll try to find out at least what he cannot resist.

Sorc almost did it before I recreated so I know she can solo the whole stage once I finish rebuilding her. She has an AC of 31 so not super by any standards. Run in all buffed, bigby balor, dominate fire giant, you already had a buffed summon sitting back by the entrance and you make them follow you to a bottle neck. Jaunt, buff domintated warrior, 51 AC btw, while you kill his stooges, the balor is stuck far away. Then take you lil army over to him and have them wail on it while you blast it with everything you have.

I almost had this but lag forced her to have to retreat with the balor and a sorc still standing.

It is a good strategy, but I'm wondering how could some dominated giants helpin killing a boss that will probably slay them with ease.
I'm collecting ideas, I will for sure test them all soon.