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Re: Wow, is it just me, or does Black Flame Zealot need help
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:16 am
by Bad Omens
Actually, I would in fact change the Iron Will Feat prereq to True Believer.
Iron Will really doesn't do anything for this build anyways and I believe True Believer more appropriate.
Re: Wow, is it just me, or does Black Flame Zealot need help
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:50 am
by thids
If it was a Kossuth specific class, then maybe. But it's a generic divine class available to clerics of all gods (and the majority of other divine casters).
Re: Wow, is it just me, or does Black Flame Zealot need help
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:06 am
by Bad Omens
Thids wrote:If it was a Kossuth specific class, then maybe. But it's a generic divine class available to clerics of all gods (and the majority of other divine casters).
I think that is a bit of smoke and mirrors
Seriously though, in DnD 3.5 Edition, this class is exclusive to clerics with the Fire Domain and synonymous with Kossuth. So, no matter what, you would have to be a real True Believer to get by in this order. You are not going to walk up as a Ranger of Grumbar and say, "Hey guys, mind if I sit in on your holy rites of assassination!". It is wholly accurate to consider any PC necessary to be a "Zealot" for their fire based diety, or demon!
Reference:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bwpkng ... view?pli=1
Re: Wow, is it just me, or does Black Flame Zealot need help
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:10 pm
by thids
Actually there are 2 versions, one is D&D generic and one is FR specific. The D&D generic one is open to all deities, and that's the one we have on BG.
(Complete Divine for the generic one aaaaaaaand I can't remember the source for the FR one. Unapproachable East maybe?)
Re: Wow, is it just me, or does Black Flame Zealot need help
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:57 pm
by Eclypticon
Theodore01 wrote:[P]lease do enlighten us - what was agreed on ?
http://bgtscc.net/viewtopic.php?f=199&t=39960
Re: Wow, is it just me, or does Black Flame Zealot need help
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:00 pm
by Blackman D
QC is a private forum remember
they cant see the thread
Rasael wrote:From what I can tell it may have become generally accessible post 3.5 edition. I don't know how the class is in our timeline and whether or not its only for Kossuth or also for other deities.
Eitherway, we are all onboard with the changes then?
7/10 progression, D4 fire damage, free dimension door 3/day
from the thread the part about kossuth only seemed to still be up in the air
Re: Wow, is it just me, or does Black Flame Zealot need help
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:02 pm
by Bad Omens
That seems more than sufficient to me. I wouldn't have even thought to add the Shadow Door to be completely honest.
Re: Wow, is it just me, or does Black Flame Zealot need help
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:55 pm
by Theodore01
Rasael wrote:Eitherway, we are all onboard with the changes then?
7/10 progression, D4 fire damage, free dimension door 3/day
any update on this on the horizon
Re: Wow, is it just me, or does Black Flame Zealot need help
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:15 pm
by OdiumNostrum
Theodore01 wrote:any update on this on the horizon
Equally curious here.