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Re: Building a new PC

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:45 pm
by Thorsson
Eclypticon wrote:Maybe this is something of what you are looking for: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Eclypticon/saved/8g96Mp
The HDD is a bit weedy, otherwise seems fine. I'd think about an SSD if 500Gb was enough; the speed difference in loading is very noticeable.

Re: Building a new PC

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:10 am
by Storm Munin
The graphic card is the most important part even if the mobo and processor helps.


I ran fallout 4 on a GT750 card using a i7 950 processor before the motherboard and PSU decided to die on me after 5 years of excellent service (Fried itself when I was away for the weekend).

Not saying you should cheap out on the motherboard or processor, but if you have to shave your design because of funds this is where you do it.
I believe a GTX970 or similar radeon card is recommended for Fallout 4.


I just built my son a new computer since his old laptop went obsolete on him, scavenging the GT750 card from my old companion.
Since he is into LAN I decided on a mini-ITX solution using:

Case: Corsair Graphite 380T, roughly $200
Mobo: ASUS H110i plus D3, roughly $100
Processor: Intel i5 6600 Skylake, short on $300
GPU: ASUS GT750, cannibalized.
PSU: Corsair something 600w, roughly $100
RAM: DDR3 Corsair vengeance 8GB(2x4), less than $65
SSD: Kingston V300 120GB, cannibalized and cheap end I know.
HDD: Toshiba 500GB, roughly $65
Windows 10: Cannibalized on an old windows 7 licence and upgraded, had to burn an ISO windows 7 disc so 10 cents?

Net cost: Short on $830 and 10 cents, also 5-6 manhours having loads of nerd fun & frustration.
GPU and SSD needs to be funded to be fair in comparisons.
Consider however that I live in a high tax nation along with VAT on transportation.
Undoubtedly the same parts are way cheaper in other countries.


Works like a charm it does, though the case is fatter than envisioned it gets the job done.
But I will increase RAM to 16GB, install a larger SSD and buy a new graphics card when he has earned them.
A few more LED case fans if he want/need them as well.
He will be using the rig for CS:GO, Fallout 4 and Star Wars Battlefront (Dice).
Xmas will be good on him this year, then again he is first in his class in maths and generally not that bad a teenager.

Going to build myself something similiar but with less cheap parts.
I'll either go with the Corsair case above or a CM Storm Trooper, like the handle thing.

/M

Re: Building a new PC

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 4:36 pm
by AlwaysSummer Day
I7 Devils canyon or the new skylake if you got the cash. Paired up with a decent chipset and an r9 390x and you will win. The Titan is for rich folk imo and not worth it as the differences will be unnoticeable to even a trained eye.

Re: Building a new PC

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:12 am
by Eclypticon
The r9 390x may be a bit of over kill in this instance (I am assuming you will be playing in 1080p). Personally, I would recommend the r9 380x 4g to the GTX 970 as an alternative. I am not a fan of the power consumption the 390x uses for the performance gains. Many times the memory is not fully utilized from what I hear. It will not be going in my system simply because it is too much potential extra heat added to my computer room.

AMD wise, I would recommend the R9 Nano if the price was not so high. If you are going to spend anywhere near that much money, I suggest you get a GTX 980. I expect to see some price drops next year and changes in benchmarks as DX12 gets more attention, but that probably will not help you now.

All these suggestions are a bit overkill in 1080p, but they are worth considering for future games.

As far as using an I7, the 4790k is quite impressive, especially, when overclocked. I personally have yet to be convinced of a reason to use any of the new I7 stuff yet. The 4790k will remain relevant for games for a good while longer provided your video card is. Otherwise, stick to the i5-6600K and you can upgrade later when you need it.

On another note, regarding the build I posted. If you are going to overclock, you may want to get LEPA AquaChanger 240 103.6 over the LEPA AquaChanger 120 103.6. I plan on using it in one of my next builds in 2016. I will be sticking with the 4790k since I will need what it can do with other things rather than PC games as well.

Here is an example of what I mean: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Eclypticon/saved/bZkMnQ
This build should do exceptionally well in 1080p. It should also handle emulation better than the previous build should you want to play ps2 games or Wii. You will have a higher clock speed on the processor, and if that's not enough, you can bump it to 4.4ghz safely with ease.