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Re: Bard build - help needed

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:14 am
by duracele
I will probably skip both. level 2 slots are more than hard pressed. one could leave out invisibility i guess. do bards get greater invi?

Re: Bard build - help needed

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 6:46 am
by Thorsson
duracele wrote:I will probably skip both. level 2 slots are more than hard pressed. one could leave out invisibility i guess. do bards get greater invi?
Yes. OFC the length is much shorter, but you don't absolutely need Invis.

Re: Bard build - help needed

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:26 am
by mrm3ntalist
Bards can also get invisibility from the Shadow Conjuration spell. Mage armor is another useful spell you can get from Shadow Conjuration.

Re: Bard build - help needed

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:35 am
by Thorsson
mrm3ntalist wrote:Bards can also get invisibility from the Shadow Conjuration spell. Mage armor is another useful spell you can get from Shadow Conjuration.
Very true. It's a must have spell for me.

Re: Bard build - help needed

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:39 am
by mrm3ntalist
Thorsson wrote:
mrm3ntalist wrote:Bards can also get invisibility from the Shadow Conjuration spell. Mage armor is another useful spell you can get from Shadow Conjuration.
Very true. It's a must have spell for me.
Yeap, for me too. I think it is not removed by breach either, but have not tested this to be certain

Re: Bard build - help needed

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:45 am
by duracele
My big headache are the feats. I found out i`d like to have div shield too :P
Now i need another pre epic feat and will have to loose either extend spell, lingering or curse song. Tough choices. feat starved.

http://nwn2db.com/build/?239652
http://nwn2db.com/build/?239697

Re: Bard build - help needed

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 8:30 am
by Thorsson
I'd cut out a Great Cha, they're all must have Feats IMO.

Re: Bard build - help needed

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 8:36 am
by mrm3ntalist
I am not certain you can take Divine might on a class that doesnt progress Turn Undead.
What makes Divine shield essential for you? In which cases are you going to use it?

Practised Spellcaster is missing.

Re: Bard build - help needed

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 8:47 am
by Theodore01
and you cant take divine shield before you get turn undead, if you want both, you need 4 lvs of BG.

Re: Bard build - help needed

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 10:43 am
by duracele
The pit fiend rips my current build apart after his mords hit. +8 ac for 44 secs seems decent to reward. I dropped 2 gr charisma. contender for the spare feat are practised caster, ipa, gr char and eagle spell. In ud dispels are very seldom. breaches are frequent and cl don`t protect against those.