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Re: Be Warned!
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:07 pm
by V'rass
So basically, I can log in and prob not loose xp due to the bug but if I gain lvs they may be taken away tommarow due to rollback?
Re: Be Warned!
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:12 pm
by Maecius
V'rass wrote:So basically, I can log in and prob not loose xp due to the bug but if I gain lvs they may be taken away tommarow due to rollback?
Yes. Play for RP, not for mechanical progression, if you play today.
Anything you gain or lose will likely be reversed to about four hours ago once the issue is corrected.
Re: Be Warned!
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:14 pm
by V'rass
Np then... even if I lose the lv I will gain tonight I will still only be 7k from it after rollback. Who knows... maybe I wont lose it after the rollback, can always hope. Long as the bug does not get me I am fine with that.
Re: Be Warned!
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:19 pm
by Bad Omens
Re: Be Warned!
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:21 pm
by V'rass
From what it sounds like this bug only affects lv20+ characters... is that confirmed?
Re: Be Warned!
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:22 pm
by Bad Omens
Duster47 wrote:Issue may or not be related to quest creatures.
Be sure to get a Screen Shot of any XP losses not associated with a trip to Myrkul.
FWIW, my L2 test PC earned 24Xp for smacking a skeleton.
I also just initiated a ServerVault backup. The one before is 7Apr.
I think it would be a good idea to backup the vault before you guys are launching a mass scale update. Not judging, just saying, future reference.
Re: Be Warned!
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:34 pm
by Aurali
Is there a common occurrence with the XP loss? All the screenshots I've seen show it being lost from the RP experience generator. Or maybe it has something to do with ECL or on certain events. I know Duster and Rasael are working to fix it but maybe if we could collect the circumstances around the loss, it might help narrow down where to look for the issue. If those that lost XP could post whether they have an ECL and what you were doing when it occurred, it might help?
Re: Be Warned!
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:36 pm
by Bad Omens
Aurali wrote:Is there a common occurrence with the XP loss? All the screenshots I've seen show it being lost from the RP experience generator. Or maybe it has something to do with ECL or on certain events. I know Duster and Rasael are working to fix it but maybe if we could collect the circumstances around the loss, it might help narrow down where to look for the issue. If those that lost XP could post whether they have an ECL and what you were doing when it occurred, it might help?
No ECL

Re: Be Warned!
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:43 pm
by Rhifox
Just got the hit myself. Also knocked me down to 23. The only thing I've done since the update is RP. I got the hit on an RP exp tick. I've done no quests, killed no mobs, not even rested.
The server seems to be thinking that 23 is the max appropriate level and deleveling people above it. Is there some server setting that got ticked accidentally somewhere?
Re: Be Warned!
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:45 pm
by V'rass
Well that means i'm safe then... lv 15.

Btw if its the rp xp giver that is causing the problem then simply don't rp. Use tells or party chat for talking until the problem is fixed. You wont gain any rp xp and thus circumvent the issue entirely.

Re: Be Warned!
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:49 pm
by Maecius
Pre-update backups would be ideal yes. I do server character vault backups on a roughly weekly basis, myself, for worst case scenarios. Usually every weekend. But we can start trying to be a little more consistent with pre-update backups as well.
Just keep in mind that everyone's doing this on their own time, and for free. So we will occasionally overlook things in our hurry to go spend our free time doing more enjoyable things in our time off from real life work!
Fortunately, we should only lose about a day this time thanks to Duster47's quick thinking. The people who lost xp before the backup will be identified and corrected after the rollback.
Re: Be Warned!
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 4:24 pm
by Kald
Hey guys,
lost some xp after the update, got delvled back to 23.
picture detached.
Hope you can fix it.
Best wishes,
Kald
http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?fi ... 753147.jpg

Re: Be Warned!
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:03 pm
by LISA100595
Many are reporting that they are being deleveled to level 23 - Has the server setting for Max Level been changed at all?
Duster47 wrote:So here is the deal... Head Developer Talking... not HDMs.
Something is really borked with XP for higher level PCs. I do not know what/why.
I tried reverting to last weekend's Backup then patched up to yesterday, when things were working OK, then only add area and item changes from the update I was trying to push out today. Still no-joy on XP issue.
I will need to spend awhile locally back-patching to figure out what happened, what broke, and correct it with Rasael's help. This will take hours...
I made a ServerVault backup about a half hour after this mess started. I highly suspect we will roll-back to that once the update issue is resolved. Hopefully the few of you who got XP-losses early on have screenshots to share with DM Team to get your lost XP restored.
Meanwhile, we all have RL stuff to do, as do I. Already lost half of my day-off putzing with this. The Server is on/up. I will drop the Player password, but be forewarned - you may loose XP, whatever you do today, maybe tomorrow, will very likely be rolled back.
Sorry. Sometimes stuff happens.
Re: Be Warned!
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:13 pm
by NegInfinity
Duster47 wrote:So here is the deal... Head Developer Talking... not HDMs.
Something is really borked with XP for higher level PCs. I do not know what/why.
I hope you guys use git/mercurial version control....
Re: Be Warned!
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:27 pm
by Dagesh
Wondering this as well.
LISA100595 wrote:Many are reporting that they are being deleveled to level 23 - Has the server setting for Max Level been changed at all?
Duster47 wrote:So here is the deal... Head Developer Talking... not HDMs.
Something is really borked with XP for higher level PCs. I do not know what/why.
I tried reverting to last weekend's Backup then patched up to yesterday, when things were working OK, then only add area and item changes from the update I was trying to push out today. Still no-joy on XP issue.
I will need to spend awhile locally back-patching to figure out what happened, what broke, and correct it with Rasael's help. This will take hours...
I made a ServerVault backup about a half hour after this mess started. I highly suspect we will roll-back to that once the update issue is resolved. Hopefully the few of you who got XP-losses early on have screenshots to share with DM Team to get your lost XP restored.
Meanwhile, we all have RL stuff to do, as do I. Already lost half of my day-off putzing with this. The Server is on/up. I will drop the Player password, but be forewarned - you may loose XP, whatever you do today, maybe tomorrow, will very likely be rolled back.
Sorry. Sometimes stuff happens.