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Re: Languages - April 20th Update
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 3:54 pm
by kleomenes
Foreigner is not granting a bonus language, either, as of update.
Re: Languages - April 20th Update
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 4:47 pm
by NegInfinity
The bug is odd.
My tiefling rogue did not get cant or abyssal.
Tiefling warlock got abyssal, but language selection available in language window was very strange. Infernal wasn't on the list, for example.
I think it might be related to language-granting classes. Also, the set of available languages is incorrectly determined and looks some sort of default language list, which resembles what humans get (if I remember their selection correctly). Thorass/Undercommon/etc.
Also, in my case the window told me to select 5 languages for +3 int character with foreigner background.
I think that algorithm that calculates number of existing langauge is borked.
Re: Languages - April 20th Update
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 5:09 pm
by TheLier
As a wizard I have arcane, common and draconic, but nothing else.
So, I don't have six copies of arcane now, but I'm still missing nearly all of mine.
Re: Languages - April 20th Update
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 5:17 pm
by Snarfy
NegInfinity wrote:The bug is odd.
My tiefling rogue did not get cant or abyssal.
Tiefling warlock got abyssal, but language selection available in language window was very strange. Infernal wasn't on the list, for example.
I think it might be related to language-granting classes. Also, the set of available languages is incorrectly determined and looks some sort of default language list, which resembles what humans get (if I remember their selection correctly). Thorass/Undercommon/etc.
Also, in my case the window told me to select 5 languages for +3 int character with foreigner background.
I think that algorithm that calculates number of existing langauge is borked.
Any languages you originally had, you still have, they just wont show up in the language selection button for you to speak. If someone speaks in those languages, they will translate fine in your combat log.
The language granting list that opens when you log on are the remaining available languages, and choosing any will allow you to speak/comprehend the new languages chosen. If you re-log again the language granting screen will likely pop up again, and any new languages you chose the previous log-in will then be unselectable, both from the language granting window, as well as the chat options. However, you will probably still be able to comprehend(in the combat log) what ever you chose the previous time around.
So, yes, basically both the algorithm that calculates granted languages, as well as everything to do with granted languages, is majorly broken.
Re: Languages - April 20th Update
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 5:55 pm
by NegInfinity
Snarfy wrote:
Any languages you originally had, you still have, they just wont show up in the language selection button for you to speak. If someone speaks in those languages, they will translate fine in your combat log.
You know, I think you might be right here.
None of the languages my characters originally knew were on the list. I sorta thought it is because I got wrong racial language selection list (aasimar, humans and tieflings get very dfferent language choices), but your explanation is plausible too.
Re: Languages - April 20th Update
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 7:12 pm
by GholaMan
I have a differant problem that i didnt see come up in discussion yet, i created a new character, didn't get any languages at all, relogged then got undercommon, drow, and elven for racial and it let me pick 2 more languages. Upon reaching level 2 it allowed me to pick 2 languages again, except that the languages i picked again replaced two of the languages i had.
Re: Languages - April 20th Update
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 7:14 pm
by Blackman D
thats sorta the same problem, the choices keep getting reset whenever the gui pops up
Re: Languages - April 20th Update
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 9:08 pm
by NeOmega
NegInfinity wrote:Can someone please fix this? It is a real mood killer...
...dude...
Re: Languages - April 20th Update
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 9:21 pm
by The Whistler
Since there isn't a bug thread concerning the latest update, I'll hijack this one: Last known location is borked once more. I'm tired of going up and down the netherese maze after each server reset.

Re: Languages - April 20th Update
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:47 pm
by Blackman D
thats because having everything in a single thread was getting hard to sort through, so i dont think they are going to start more and hope people just use the proper subforum to provide feedback
Re: Languages - April 20th Update
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 2:38 am
by NegInfinity
The Whistler wrote:I'll hijack this one: Last known location
Please don't. Make another one. That would be the best idea. This one is titled "languages".
P.S. Honestly, the server needs proper bugtracker.
Re: Languages - April 20th Update
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 6:45 am
by mrm3ntalist
NegInfinity wrote:The Whistler wrote:I'll hijack this one: Last known location
Please don't. Make another one. That would be the best idea. This one is titled "languages".
P.S. Honestly, the server needs proper bugtracker.
Both issues might be related
Re: Languages - April 20th Update
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:00 am
by NegInfinity
mrm3ntalist wrote:
Both issues might be related
Or might not be. Server kept forgetting last location for at least a week before language system broke. And language system broke after the last update.
Re: Languages - April 20th Update
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 12:26 pm
by metaquad4
I'm getting here just after I logged in. I had 10 languages, as well as dragonic (wizard), "arcane" (wizard), and abyssal (tiefling). Its offering me 13 languages and none of the ones I knew before.
Re: Languages - April 20th Update
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 2:01 pm
by Blackhorizon
What seems to happen...
Server resets.
Player logs in. Only receives common and prompt to choose languages but those you are supposed to have aren't in the list.
Player crashes/logs out and logs in. Char is granted common and varying number of languages. Language window may prompt to choose some that are left. My elf got common, elven and one additional language I had already chosen before but not two others.
Players crashes/logs out and logs in. Only receives common and prompt to choose languages but those you are supposed to have aren't in the list.
Etc. The circle goes round and round.
Also this seems to ignore bonus language feat.
Addition: I did not pick any languages on any of the times the languages were prompted.