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Re: More reasonable cost of scribing scrolls

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 12:46 pm
by Ambaryerno
Deathgrowl wrote:Rather see vendor scrolls' price increased myself. That would be a gold sink that would actually work.
As long as it was brought up to the level of scribed scrolls (if not a little more, to cover the cost of blank scrolls) I'd be fine with that, too. However based on previous posts since that would require manually rebalancing the vendors it's much less likely to happen.

My main concern is still making them stackable. And fixing the icons so you can actually tell which is which. :-P

Re: More reasonable cost of scribing scrolls

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:20 pm
by Hoihe
Deathgrowl wrote:Rather see vendor scrolls' price increased myself. That would be a gold sink that would actually work.

Where would players get the gold for them? During the levels where you need scrolls as a wizard, making anything resembling gold is near impossible.

Re: More reasonable cost of scribing scrolls

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:42 pm
by Selande
You don't pay for spell components already.

Re: More reasonable cost of scribing scrolls

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:33 pm
by Hoihe
Wizards are considered to be stocked up on spell components whenever they visit a settlement and spend as much as 1 gold on something.

Furthermore, wizards have no carry capacity.

Re: More reasonable cost of scribing scrolls

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:46 pm
by Storm Munin
Why dont wizards have a carrying capacity?
Are you relating to the min-maxing ending up in low STR?
That is a player choice, wizards have the same amount of inventory slots as anyone else.

In all fairness we do suffer a lack of bags of holding and magical beasts of burdens to end that suffering though.


To return to the discussion at hand it would make sense to have crafting scrolls etc cost equal to or even lower then the shop prices in order to promote roleplay.

At what pricing though?
Too high and we hurt the new players on the server, while the oldies mostly get along fine with what we already have and thus hoard cash far better then the new players.
Too low and coin numbers sky rocket on everyone given time.

/M

Re: More reasonable cost of scribing scrolls

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:50 pm
by Young Werther
I think a workshop would have lower costs where-as an "in field" cost would be high. Maybe make a unique crafting station that makes the low cost ones if you have scribe scrollz.

Re: More reasonable cost of scribing scrolls

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:59 pm
by Calodan
I think a workshop would have lower costs where-as an "in field" cost would be high. Maybe make a unique crafting station that makes the low cost ones if you have scribe scrollz.
I like this!

Re: More reasonable cost of scribing scrolls

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 8:15 pm
by Tantive
Scribing scrolls takes time, it only really needs a writing surface and spell memorised. A unique crafting station would need to be placed eeeeverywhere from public to guild and private places.

Typically but not presented in the game you could have multiple spells upon a single scroll depending on the size.

Re: More reasonable cost of scribing scrolls

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 8:50 pm
by Young Werther
You could just add the scroll crafting to the wand recharge station then.

Re: More reasonable cost of scribing scrolls

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 8:54 pm
by Tantive
That doesn't make it really conducive for roleplay for such a basic function as scribing scrolls.

Re: More reasonable cost of scribing scrolls

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 8:57 pm
by Young Werther
Sure. I think my idea is just a work around idea if the scribe scroll function's prices can't be changed.

Re: More reasonable cost of scribing scrolls

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:00 pm
by Selande
Hoihe wrote:Wizards are considered to be stocked up on spell components whenever they visit a settlement and spend as much as 1 gold on something.
Where is that sourced? :?

Re: More reasonable cost of scribing scrolls

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 2:56 am
by Blackman D
there is nothing that says wizards have that capability, the only thing wizards get for easy component use is the bag of components, which contains either an unlimited or limited amount of every -basic- component a wizard would need to cast spells - un/limited depending on the DM

if its unlimited then they never need to worry, if limited then they would need to restock every so often but the cost is little, either way rare components still need to be acquired

basic and rare components are generally grouped by how extreme a spell is; spells like fireball, animate dead, tensers, or shadow conjuration would likely be considered basic

but spells like gate (or any planar/dimensional spell for that matter), soulbind, imprisonment, or meteor swarm are likely to be considered rare, even if only they are spells which the DM simply doesnt want you to cast whenever you feel like it

Re: More reasonable cost of scribing scrolls

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:30 am
by Ambaryerno
Good news: Scribed scrolls now stack. Yay!

Bad news: They still cost SIGNIFICANTLY more than going to an NPC vendor. And the fix that was supposed to give them the same icon as NPC scrolls apparently didn't work.

Worse news: If you have a stack of blank scrolls, but DON'T split one off the stack first when you go to scribe, you'll lose the ENTIRE stack of blanks.

Re: More reasonable cost of scribing scrolls

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 2:12 am
by Calodan
Good news: Scribed scrolls now stack. Yay!
Awesome! Great job guys behind the scenes.