red wizard

[ghostly_rose]

*slaps his hand away* Maybe.... but you don't know Invoker. But in either case, I'm just happy there will be another finger waggler around that I can slice up

[mrm3ntalist]

I dont know guys... Herisheft can be very vocal. I think it will be a close match

[LISA100595]

*slides up to ghostly_rose with a six pack* "My money is on Invoker too... Drink Fast, this is going to be over quick"

[Stonebar]

I've seen the movie 'Wanted', thus learned how to pee around corners, it's all in the hips I'll take that challenge! Unless there's a Red wizard building part of the contest... in which case I know nothing lol


Edit: Sorry hksturbo . Getting Red wizard guild advice would be good, but also Invoker is a master with Wizards, and Mentalist is one of the most knowable in mechanics on the server. So despite the messing around your in good hands all around.

[Invoker]

*slaps his hand away* Maybe.... but you don't know Invoker. But in either case, I'm just happy there will be another finger waggler around that I can slice up

You forget that you already tried.

Try not to forget what actually happened, when you did...lest it happens again ...

Some "finger wagglers" are harder to slice than they look like, wouldn't you agree?

[Laughing Octopus]

From my perspective, choosing the prohibited schools isn't so much a worry. I just chose spell schools with a minimum number of spells I planned on using. For instance, I only use false life and finger of death from necromancy, so that school is totally expendable to me. I also only use Heroism from enchantment. It really just comes down to what kind of spells do you want your wizard to be casting? You kind of have to look at it from a sorcerer perspective.

Prohibited spell school choosing is currently bugged though, so make sure you remember to pick your prohibited schools when you log in every time, because it doesn't save the choice.

I will warn you though, the "mark rune" spell is divination, while teleportation is conjuration. So if you want to be able to teleport without getting people to make runes for you, you'll need both of those schools.

[LISA100595]

on serious note - I thought Mark Rune was set back to universal???

[Valefort]

My thoughts exactly, it's supposed to not have a spellschool anymore T_T

[mrm3ntalist]

My thoughts exactly, it's supposed to not have a spellschool anymore T_T

It works as universal. My Necromancer with prohibited school Divination is able to cast it.

Like JVCD1 said, ask the Reds for advice!

Just kidding. Honest mistake to make since it only recently changed

[Laughing Octopus]

That's good to know, I thought it only started working for me because I accidentally reversed my prohibited schools with the latest update to the class, so that divination was only prohibited after 3rd level spells.

[Invoker]

From my perspective, choosing the prohibited schools isn't so much a worry. I just chose spell schools with a minimum number of spells I planned on using.

Absolutely, it's impeccable logic.

The schools I mentioned as exceedingly important when I gave my advice (Illusion and Abjuration) have a few spells that are almost mandatory, if you want to have a chance of success in certain situations (Mirror Images, Shades, Shadow Shield, Invisibility, Gr. Invisibility/Displacement to mention some belonging to Illusion, while Abjuration includes mantles, breaches, dispels/Mordenkainen's Disjunction, Mind Blank and Energy Immunity, among others).

Your letting Necromancy go might get in the way of your DCs, by the way: metamagicked Enervations and Energy Drain are often key to take down targets with high saves all across the board. Greater Heroism, even though it's a great spell, might be a tad less problematic loss, depending on your playstyle (unless you want to land TAs/RTAs in every circumstance, of course. For instance, if you're a Frost Mage.)

[chad878262]

My thoughts exactly, it's supposed to not have a spellschool anymore T_T

It works as universal. My Necromancer with prohibited school Divination is able to cast it.

Like JVCD1 said, ask the Reds for advice!

Just kidding. Honest mistake to make since it only recently changed

I have a PC with divination as prohibited school and he cannot learn or cast mark rune, pretty sure it is still flagged as divination.

[mrm3ntalist]

I have a PC with divination as prohibited school and he cannot learn or cast mark rune, pretty sure it is still flagged as divination.

I just casted the spell 5 mins ago. Try a build with your QC tools. If it casts then your build might be bugged

[chad878262]

can't get in game right now, but will test... Maybe your build learned the spell before selecting divination as the opposition school? My builds issue is I can't learn the spell. In either case either today or tomorrow I'll run a test.

[chad878262]

I think I may have found the issue...

When you make a wizard, at 1st level (assuming 20 INT) they are given all of the Cantrips (or level 0 spells) EXCEPT Mark Rune. You actually have to pick it as one of your spell selections. However, you can not learn Mark Rune from the scroll (even though it says universal on the scroll. Let me know if screenshots are needed showing the scroll is red and can be studied, but cannot be cast (and thus cannot be learned)... Also, wondering if it has anything to do with Necromancer having Divination as the base opposition school vs. other wizards who select divination for opposition school. I took some screen shots showing my wizards spell list, opposition school and attempt to learn from scroll to show it won't allow me to. I also took a screen shot of character creation screen showing that Mark Rune has to be selected as a spell to learn whereas all of the other cantrips are automatically known to my 20 INT wizard test case.