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Re: The Healing Pacifist

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:52 pm
by chad878262
Sacred Fists cannot wear light armor on BGtSCC and still gain the AC bonus.

If not having great turn undead is on the table you could look at Hospitalar. A Cleric11/Monk3/Hospitalar 10/Hierophant 6 would have CL30, extra feats (2 of them epic), lay on hands, and remove disease.

Re: The Healing Pacifist

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:32 pm
by metaquad4
Flasmix wrote:Lol a little hard to be a pacifist with all those offensive options
That depends on how you define it. I assume that in FR, gods represent different ideals, and a god's opinion on a matter forms its current definition for the purpose of the in game world.

That god would be Eldath. And Eldath's pacifism means being fine with employing violence for defensive means, but never being vindictive or offensive.

If you take the generally accepted IRL definition and determine pacifism as never attacking (ever), then Sacred Fist 10/Monk 3/Cleric 7/Hierophant 10 is likely the best bet I think. Combat Expertise, Improved Combat Expertise. Max WIS, get as much dex as possible. You only really need concentration, spellcraft, and possibly heal, you can afford to minimize INT (probably 10) too. Max out AC, take healing domain and augment healing.

Re: The Healing Pacifist

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:35 pm
by aaron22
ICE requires 13+ int cannot minimize to 10. and Flasmix wanted spot maxed.

Re: The Healing Pacifist

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:37 pm
by metaquad4
Aaah, phooie. I suppose one could always take away 2 from WIS. As an Aasimar, that is fine. And your DCs don't matter, so it shouldn't be too bad. Pour some into int and con.

10/16/12/14/18/10 maybe?

Re: The Healing Pacifist

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 6:06 pm
by PiaMango
In playing a support cleric you want to get either the healing domain or protection domain. That way you won't have energy immunity and heal on the same spell level.

I have played around with the idea of a Cleric/Bard/Storm Singer/Hierophant. Its really tight to build if you want to get EDM but given your focus is support you wont need that and can put your ability points elsewhere.

Example
Pros:
Level 9 cleric spells
Hymn of Requiem
Other bard goodies (skills, minor spells, minor inspiration)

Cons:
No turning
26 caster levels (With 2 spell power feats from hierophant. Can trade off faith healing for +1 cl)

Another interesting feat if you were interested in the bodyguard build is rescue. If you go for the con maxing build it would work out well.

Re: The Healing Pacifist

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 8:26 pm
by Flasmix
The Bard/Cleric/Stormsinger sounds really, really interesting. How would it need to be built to get both Hymn and level 9 cleric spells?

Re: The Healing Pacifist

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 8:39 pm
by PiaMango
As I understand it stormsinger still gives new songs per days even when choosing cleric spell progression. (Although doing this will not advance your inspirations so you will only have +2 Inspire Courage/ +3 Defense)

Requiem requires 20 spells per day, 10 from bard + 10 from stormsinger.

I believe the main reason why people stopped building this was because of the dispel change which punishes the lower caster level. Hierophant can make up for this weakness now with the bonus CL feats.