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Re: Barbarian build

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:47 pm
by Sun Wukong
aaron22 wrote:Even though ice troll specifically says it doesn't stack with any other form of natural ac bonus
It stacks with Palemaster. :lol:

Re: Barbarian build

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:56 pm
by Sun Wukong
aaron22 wrote:I had a perfect build for NH. I did a dpr comparison of it on and off. My dpr was exceedingly higher while I had it off and Ipa on. This was about 5 months ago and I am unsure if changes have been made, but I would much rather have Ipa as it clearly creates more damage on high bab toons.
These days you get your weapon's Enchantment Bonus to damage twice when Northlander Hewing is active.

Yeah, IPA tends to be better and deal more damage in most situations, however, Northlander Hewing is just a one feat. I would rather have an additional Extend Rage feat on my Barbarian. Not to mention how I often fight 'sword-and-board' just to increase my AC to levels where it can act as a pseudo immunity to critical hits... Thus I find myself very content with the choice of Northlander Hewing rather than taking IPA.

Now, if your build has fighter levels for the extra AB feats, then IPA will be the better choice. Those bonus feats to AB practically negate the IPA AB penalty.

But if you are Bard Gish, Arcane Gish, or high strength Barbarian/Paladin - then you too might really like Northlander Hewing.

Re: Barbarian build

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 12:56 pm
by Akroma666
http://nwn2db.com/build/?265543
Whipped this up this morning.

Re: Barbarian build

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:11 pm
by Sun Wukong
You should use the feat gained on Barbarian 20 to get Epic Rage instead of Fast Healing. If I am not mistaken, Fist of the Forest constitution AC does not improve with constitution bonuses, it is just your base constitution. Hence you are better off wearing armor than being naked.

Re: Barbarian build

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:17 pm
by Akroma666
Comments Only wrote: If I am not mistaken, Fist of the Forest constitution AC does not improve with constitution bonuses, it is just your base constitution. Hence you are better off wearing armor than being naked.
False!
This AC is retroactive and does not stack when polymorphed in any way. So getting a con boost from rage is infact worth it.

Moved the feats and stats around to accommodate for that epic rage suggestion

Re: Barbarian build

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:23 pm
by Sun Wukong
- AC Bonus: While unarmored, you gain a bonus to your dodge Armor Class equal to your Constitution bonus (if any). Only your base Constitution is used for this bonus (spell/item enhancements are not used). This bonus will not work while wildshaped.
If that is the case, maybe that description should be changed.

Re: Barbarian build

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:25 pm
by Akroma666
Or I did math wrong.. let me check it after i finish searing this pork loin.

Re: Barbarian build

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:27 pm
by mrm3ntalist
Comments Only wrote:
- AC Bonus: While unarmored, you gain a bonus to your dodge Armor Class equal to your Constitution bonus (if any). Only your base Constitution is used for this bonus (spell/item enhancements are not used). This bonus will not work while wildshaped.
If that is the case, maybe that description should be changed.
That isnt the case, unless somethign broke. I will test it later just in case

Re: Barbarian build

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:52 pm
by Akroma666
I can confirm, this does not work with +con items.. perhaps thats a suggestion for QC then. I will open a suggestion thread!

Thanks for bringing this to my attention Comments. Had no idea.

Re: Barbarian build

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 2:16 pm
by Sun Wukong
Akroma666 wrote:Thanks for bringing this to my attention Comments. Had no idea.
I had a Fighter/Fist of the Forest/Monk/Shadowdancer, a strength based build, in the past.