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Re: Attacks of Opportunity vs Healer's Kit usage
Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 4:04 pm
by Blackman D
well that has always been the case, but you still cant attack someone unless that has changed?
ethereal and parry mode and you are still safe, parry mode is to stop you from making AoO and breaking it
Re: Attacks of Opportunity vs Healer's Kit usage
Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 4:11 pm
by Endelyon
Yeah, I asked Valefort--turns out I was mistaken and G. Sanc still can't be attacked through even with True Seeing. It's only Mirrors and Concealment that get bypassed. Woops.

Re: Attacks of Opportunity vs Healer's Kit usage
Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 4:26 pm
by dedude
As far as I recall you aren't supposed to be able to take magic effects with you back from the ethereal plane, if they are cast there. That includes ethereal jaunt.
Re: Attacks of Opportunity vs Healer's Kit usage
Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 4:33 pm
by aaron22
that would be great if ethereal ends, it does so in a series of instantaneous high CL dispells in a very small AOE.
Re: Attacks of Opportunity vs Healer's Kit usage
Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 4:59 pm
by Randall
On most NWN1 servers, the healing kits have been re-made this way.
You can't use them in combat at all, exept to cure poison. And outside combat, they give you a regeneration based on the healing kit and your healing skill, which lowers your AC by 5 for the duration.
Re: Attacks of Opportunity vs Healer's Kit usage
Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 5:03 pm
by V'rass
Pump points into tumble until it hits at least 15, preferably 20... then you can move all you want and nobody but lv 30s and bosses will be hitting you.
Re: Attacks of Opportunity vs Healer's Kit usage
Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 5:16 pm
by dedude
Randall wrote:On most NWN1 servers, the healing kits have been re-made this way.
You can't use them in combat at all, exept to cure poison. And outside combat, they give you a regeneration based on the healing kit and your healing skill, which lowers your AC by 5 for the duration.
This suggestion has been through QC a short while ago but was turned down.
Re: Attacks of Opportunity vs Healer's Kit usage
Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 8:12 pm
by mrm3ntalist
What is the problem with heal kits?
Re: Attacks of Opportunity vs Healer's Kit usage
Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 11:53 pm
by K'yon Oblodra
mrm3ntalist wrote:What is the problem with heal kits?
They're essentially better than potions not granting AoO to opponents.
Re: Attacks of Opportunity vs Healer's Kit usage
Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 12:49 am
by Blackman D
-if- you have invested heal skill... if not then gratz, you get a d20+1 in combat
Re: Attacks of Opportunity vs Healer's Kit usage
Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 1:57 am
by Moltrazahn
Are they tho?
I Swear, I keep getting hammered whenever I initiate the heal-kit spam on myself. More often than not (altho this may just be my perception of the amount of times it occours).
Re: Attacks of Opportunity vs Healer's Kit usage
Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 2:21 am
by Vermilion
Moltrazahn wrote:Are they tho?
I Swear, I keep getting hammered whenever I initiate the heal-kit spam on myself. More often than not (altho this may just be my perception of the amount of times it occours).
I know what you mean! I'm sure the AI 'knows' when you've taken a few hits and makes sure its NPCs roll a few extra 20s.
AoO placement is pretty buggy too, I often find myself having to reposition because an NPC caster is able to fire off spells without triggering attacks of opportunity from my PC.
Re: Attacks of Opportunity vs Healer's Kit usage
Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 2:46 am
by Tsidkenu
When you use kits I'm pretty sure your char is considered flatfooted to all attacks, losing DEX & Dodge AC categories. I usually don't bother with kits in combat because you only end up taking more damage than you could possibly heal (at least it sure feels that way!).
Re: Attacks of Opportunity vs Healer's Kit usage
Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 3:28 am
by Vermilion
I'll do some tests on this later, interested now!
Re: Attacks of Opportunity vs Healer's Kit usage
Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 7:18 am
by dedude
As Blackman said you have to invest in it to make it good to use in combat. High heal skill and Heavy armor so you don't rely too heavily on dodge/dex AC. But if you do that, it is very strong.