Suggestion: Epic undead summon.

[aaron22]

*reads*

anyway does the gate's randomness make sense for what is supposed to be occurring?

What randomness is that? Our version of gate is only the calling creature part, you name a creature type or specific creature and a gate opens to its location and pulls it through.

*researches gate and d20 rules on gate*
*comes to the realization that his old DM was making stuff up*
*laughs*

[dedude]

Well in PnP gate can also be used to open a longer duration gate to a specific plane. Anyone on either side can then use the gate to planeswalk to the other side, so that can obviously be quite random and dangerous. Besides, DM's are allowed to make stuff up, right?

[Blackman D]

my guess is the randomness was just what came thru it, afterall gate is nothing but a calling spell or a planar teleport depending on how you want to use it

the being that answers the summon would likely be random in pnp, you want want a balor but they give you an imp

I do not like this.

There is a reason why there is no Summon Good Elf spells... Create undead is designed for not good people

not even sure what you mean? there wont be a good version of mummy dust if thats what you thought atm the idea is a phoenix but dont ask me what its suppose to be bc idk

but even if you dont like things trying to stay balanced a lot of people do

[Hawke]

DM's are allowed to make stuff up, right?

Got to love Rule 0.

[K'yon Oblodra]

Epic spells... that is something different entirely. If we want to put in epic summon spells... then we can just do with one Epic Summon spell after certain criteria is met (like we talked about a couple of months ago).

Make Augment Summon and Epic Gate a requirement and bring in an Epic Summon that lasts a while (and is affected by thaumaturge to bring more value to the class). This summon could be undead, planar being, other critters like beholders or mindflayers, etc.

I like the idea of an epic summon that utilizes the thaumaturgs abilities.