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Re: An exercise in futility
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:18 pm
by aaron22
Laughingman wrote:Think of it as an opportunity to make our own builder.
Those capable are stretched so thin. It's hard to ask more from them.
Re: An exercise in futility
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:50 pm
by Aspect of Sorrow
If you've made your build public you can acquire it through the google cache or wayback. JEGS is still available, and something to tide people over by making their builds in the BG server with an output to a flat file on the outside is forthcoming.
Re: An exercise in futility
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:58 pm
by Laughingman
aaron22 wrote:Laughingman wrote:Think of it as an opportunity to make our own builder.
Those capable are stretched so thin. It's hard to ask more from them.
Easy for me to ask for more. Impossible for them to do more. Unless.....
*emails energy drinks, game fuel, and a dr. note with an excuse for not going to work on Monday*
Re: An exercise in futility
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:00 am
by electric mayhem
I know Pimple... I'm lost too...
Re: An exercise in futility
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 4:34 am
by NegInfinity
Laughingman wrote:
Think of it as an opportunity to make our own builder.
Unless somebody's paying, this probably wont' be happening.
I had a rough mockup of something that could parse 2da and could be finished into full builder for any nwn module, but I had my own projects, so it never moved beyond that phase.
Re: An exercise in futility
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 1:09 pm
by Chevette
I hope it comes back, too. I'm lost without it!
Re: An exercise in futility
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:37 pm
by Kanada
I am going to suggest if it doesn't come backwe may need 100% RCR all the time, or most people will quit playing. It's just too harsh of a penalty to mess up a little on your build and not have the rigth feat or skills and then can't have the prc you want, especially with rules like 3b20
Re: An exercise in futility
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:42 pm
by aaron22
is there a way to look at my current builds? like what i took at level 1, 2, 6, 20 etc on our data files so i can try to pen and paper all my builds and know at least exactly where i am.
Re: An exercise in futility
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:43 pm
by Zahlfire
Kanada wrote:I am going to suggest if it doesn't come backwe may need 100% RCR all the time, or most people will quit playing. It's just too harsh of a penalty to mess up a little on your build and not have the rigth feat or skills and then can't have the prc you want, especially with rules like 3b20
That's what good ol'
JEGS is for! Freshly updated for the latest patch.
Re: An exercise in futility
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:47 pm
by Calodan
Zahlfire wrote:Kanada wrote:I am going to suggest if it doesn't come backwe may need 100% RCR all the time, or most people will quit playing. It's just too harsh of a penalty to mess up a little on your build and not have the rigth feat or skills and then can't have the prc you want, especially with rules like 3b20
That's what good ol'
JEGS is for! Freshly updated for the latest patch.
JEGs is not the same as a mapped out skills, feats, classes, saves and much more. Just does not cut it. JEGs is a secondary tool to use with a mapped builder to ensure you mapped it out correctly in the builder and to see end game damages, perfect gear scenarios and other things pertaining to BG. It is not a build mapper at all and should not be confused for what NWN2DB was doing for players.
Re: An exercise in futility
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:49 pm
by Zahlfire
Calodan wrote:
JEGs is not the same as a mapped out skills, feats, classes, saves and much more. Just does not cut it. JEGs is a secondary tool to use with a mapped builder to ensure you mapped it out correctly in the builder and to see end game damages, perfect gear scenarios and other things pertaining to BG. It is not a build mapper at all and should not be confused for what NWN2DB was doing for players.
Oh no, I'm not saying to use it for that. They were asking for 100% RCR in case you mess up your build, but if you build it in JEGS first then you would know if you made a mistake.
Re: An exercise in futility
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:52 pm
by Steve
I'll never be able to level again.
Re: An exercise in futility
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:58 pm
by Vartigy
May be slower.
But as mentioned, can use JEGs and build a basic model/record in excel.
But all hinged around the recently update bgtscc wiki. Which is great now!

As well as using the nwn2 wiki for a resource too.
Research then development

Re: An exercise in futility
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:00 pm
by aaron22
Steve wrote:I'll never be able to level again.
well. i gotta use what i can, because i still want to level. get your pen and notebook paper out again steve.
Re: An exercise in futility
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:10 pm
by Steve
Grr.
The first real Character I made on BGTSCC was just an idea from the memory I had of 3.5e D&D. God, that build sucked! I can remember bitching on the Forum about why can't my build survive even in CRs less than his Level.
Luna said L2P. Lol. Good ol' Luna.

I turned to NWN2DB to learn the ropes.
Anyway, I'm hopeful NWN2DB will be back. Dammit!! I did donate to keep it afloat!
I guess the upside is I'll waste less time trying to come up with some stellar new build combo, only to realize it'll FAIL on BGTSCC cause it ain't a FS or a Bard. Haha.