Hunter Ranger and Warlock - possible compatibility?

[aaron22]

i have never had a problem with oobi not working well. seemed to work well for me.

[blacksoft]

so with EWS you would end with the same bonus damage +4 and -2 ab if you took more F instead of completing oobi. good idea though. could drop 3 levels of ranger and get more fighter and just take manyshot in the bonus feat. that is a better build i think unless i am missing something.

Going back to warlock, why not sub warlock for Ranger for his haste boost, sight, +4 dex, and 20% ranged miss chance. Won't that add back your survivability a bit since umd is also class skill. Ranger only adds feats, no damage or ab. Could go 6 levels in warlock. So could be 8 Fighter 10 OOBI, 6 warlock, 4 EA (2 levels to fill EA, warlock, or fighter). Could also do 12 levels of Fighter, 10 OOBI and 6 levels of warlock (fill last two levels for 14 fighter or 8 warlock). Maybe 7 levels OOBI so can go 12 levels fighter, 6 levels warlock, and 5 EA.

I think the last one is what I would do. I would delay fighter 6 to epic level so can take epic process with level 6 and one shot with level 10 bonus feat. I would get OOBI as soon as possible - starting character level 8. Warlock 5 by 18 for Dark Transient and level 6 before 20. This means fighter 5-12 is epic leaving EA 4 and 5 as last two levels so we can pick up EWS at level 29 epic feat.

Air Gensei 14/20/14/14/6/6 - can take luck of heroes to offset poor wisdom starting stat

[aaron22]

but lock doesnt have set trap and is a med BAB class. that would not be advised. the AB on an archer build needs to be stupid high to work. highest in game for any build.

[blacksoft]

but lock doesnt have set trap and is a med BAB class. that would not be advised. the AB on an archer build needs to be stupid high to work. highest in game for any build.

Dark Transient adds +1 ab. I was going off of your build, not the trap laying thing. Doesn't haste add +1 ab as well? You only lose 1 ab and the other one is covered by haste, no? That is not a big difference. How else is this different in terms of ab?

Quick rendition: http://nwn2db.com/build/?280006

[aaron22]

do you think you will have all the feats you will want? gotta boost the poop outta that AB and ever bit of damage you will want. consider taking walk unseen to get you outta hairy situations.

[blacksoft]

do you think you will have all the feats you will want? gotta boost the poop outta that AB and ever bit of damage you will want. consider taking walk unseen to get you outta hairy situations.

Other than what is linked above, what other feats would I need. Don't need blind fight since can see invisible creatures.

I imagine lot's of the money you spent was on ab increasing magics...I must admit I have never played an Archer before.

[aaron22]

most of my money went to making me harder to hit. some stuff to make me hit better

feats i would want:
rapid shot
point blank shot
manyshot
WF longbow
Imp crit
WS longbow
Imp rapid shot
GWF longbow
GWS longbow
weapon mastery
epic:
EWF longbow
EWS longbow
One Shot
Gr Dex 1-3

might be missing one. this is off the top of my head here.

note that the see invis is not the same as blind fight. they are two different invocation. do two different things. all seeing eyes and see the unseen.

edit: if you take the lock levels, you gain access to VF in epics if you can spare the spellcraft. spell craft is good to help you fend off them magics too. will save is pretty low.

[blacksoft]

most of my money went to making me harder to hit. some stuff to make me hit better

feats i would want:
rapid shot
point blank shot
manyshot
WF longbow
Imp crit
WS longbow
Imp rapid shot
GWF longbow
GWS longbow
weapon mastery
epic:
EWF longbow
EWS longbow
One Shot
Gr Dex 1-3

might be missing one. this is off the top of my head here.

note that the see invis is not the same as blind fight. they are two different invocation. do two different things. all seeing eyes and see the unseen.

Cool. I have two "extra feats" in that build, namely, luck of heroes and able learner so can add improved crit if I feel the need. Otherwise, it has all that you mentioned.

I meant the blind fight feat. Does see the unseen peek through concealment as well as invisibility? Because if not, I would want to pick up blind fight as well. (i.e does it act as true seeing?)

[aaron22]

all seeing eyes is blind fight
see the unseen is see invisibility.

[Tsidkenu]

i have never had a problem with oobi not working well. seemed to work well for me.

I'd like to know what you did differently, because I've tested the class both extensively and exclusively and have only ever found issues with the Ranged Precision/Extended Sharpshooting mechanics never applying to the first attack flurry. And when you're a rogue/oobi, losing bonus 48 damage in your first two attacks kinda bites. Hard.

My two oobi builds are this one and that one, for the record. I also made one more to cram every ranged dmg build into the same character: elf or h/elf Bard 7/EA 4/AA 9/OOBI 10 but I never actually put that one on nwn2db.

[aaron22]

if your in game when i am, i can load her up and you can see for yourself. we can work through a few things to see if what i both claim is true and if so, what i am doing to make it work.