Highest BAB shifter Druid

[Steve]

So what Feats count? Epic Prowess and?

Also if you're a Dragon and there's a Bard in the party playing Legionnaire's, does the BAB increase to the highest in the group?

I'm also wondering if there are any Ranger possibilities here, do the TWF feats transfer at all to Wild Shapes?

Epic Prowess should count.

All the Unarmed Attack (Focus, Specialization, Mastery, etc.) do work.

The Ranger TWF feats do not work...I just tested this in JEGs (unless JEGs is wrong!). That's a real pity—it seems multiple attacks for Wild Shape are attributed to a single hand, in the mechanics.

Also, I tested the Custom Combat feats, like Sembian Fencing, and they turn off when you shift form. And with the Quickbar disabled, you cannot select them again while in Shape.

I put together a build of Druid 12 / Ranger 11 / Fighter 4 / Bodyguard 3, and though you get High AB and better Saves and some bonus feats from Ranger and Bodyguard, that TWF doesn't work, I think the loss of CL and spells isn't a good enough pay off.

However, if TWF worked...damn, that would be nice.

[Hendrak]

Thanks for pointing me to that thread Steve.

I already thought that the spider form may compete to a dragon druid with Hide of Stone and Tumble class skill access. It´s good to nerf it a bit.

But it´s to weak for what i intended to do . I ll give up my idea on Druid/Cavestalker then.

I ll try to update the Cavestalker wiki entry today with the spider stats and it´s progression.

[NeOmega]

Keep in mind cavestalker as well. High bab and cl.

wait, what? cavestalker has caster progression?

[Hendrak]

yes, but just for rangers and druids. its a nice class for dwarven rangers.

i updated the wiki gameplay notes with vermin shape info :

https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title ... play_Notes

[spyvsspy]

Yes the STR depends on the form which you shifted not character's own, but d30 dragon has the highest ability and ac score among all shape forms. Though, it's nice to make a 4lv Fighter multi-class for unarmed masterly.


BTW: does anyone have the sever customized animal companion's stats? Still didn't make the chioce for my own d

[Hendrak]

The animal stats are listed under the druid entry on the wiki.

https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title=Druid

[spyvsspy]

The animal stats are listed under the druid entry on the wiki.

https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title=Druid

I mean the custom companions such like arctic wolf, snow leopard, worg, dog (same as wolf?) etc...

[Thorsson]

I mean the custom companions such like arctic wolf, snow leopard, worg, dog (same as wolf?) etc...

Try reading from the beginning of the thread...

[NeOmega]

yes, but just for rangers and druids. its a nice class for dwarven rangers.

i updated the wiki gameplay notes with vermin shape info :

https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title ... play_Notes

this needs to be updated in the level up, in game description, it says there is no spellcasting progression.

i am playing a cavestalker right now, and for this reason i just ignored spellcasting.

i dont even know if cavestalker is supposed to be a powered up caster in lore. The in game description makes no hint of this. i thought it would be cooler if the ranger weapon and preferred enemies stacked instead, but it has neither of those. seems those would be more lore appropriate.

full casting progression would be way too powerful for sorcerers and wizards and spirit shamn... ...and i think it is too much for druids too. basically a back door for druids to be druids, except with high bab. hell ibet there are surface build druids with cavestalker just because of the hgh bab with no real penalty for the druid deviating from pure druid.

really no prc should give full spell casting progression and high BaB for any class that does not already have high Bab. no other class does, (closest is eldritch knight), and there is a reason for that.

furthermore, i dont see why druids get it, but spirit shaman do not. i simply think full spell progression is OP... ...even for rangers.

[Aurali]

I’ve made two high BAB builds using Druid. One was a 12 Druid/5 dragon slayer/9 hospitaler/4 heirophant. It had 30 CL and 26 BAB and could still do 3B20. Used winter wolf form and could do 40+ damage a hit when fully buffed. Storm avatar stopped working on winter wolf though and I’m not sure if it’s been fixed. Only issue was the AC was around 45 but newer spells might help with that. Total AB was close to 46 iirc.

The other more recent build was a non-shifting grey orc Druid with Cavestalker and frenzied berserker. I think it was 12 Druid/8 Cavestalker/6 frenzied berserker/4 heirophant. Hit like a truck when fully buffed. 30 CL plus frenzy when needed in a pinch.

[blacksoft]

The other more recent build was a non-shifting grey orc Druid with Cavestalker and frenzied berserker. I think it was 12 Druid/8 Cavestalker/6 frenzied berserker/4 heirophant. Hit like a truck when fully buffed. 30 CL plus frenzy when needed in a pinch.

For a more melee oriented druid (80+ average damage per hit and ninth circle casting): 5 druid, 9 Cave stalker, 8 stormlord, 8 FB for 42 strength utilizing NH and IPA.

[Kanada]

https://nwn2db.com/build/?340057

Full BAB shapeshifter (through the use of ~23 divine powers)