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Hmmm, I'll use a level 30 to test this out. I was at what is usually the edge of a creature's vision, running by as a hasted and invisible monk and she still managed to get me.Cenerae wrote:If the brood mama is meant to be a petrification threat, might want to increase the effective reach on the petrification gaze.
I saw her, panicked and ran, and the gaze attack was wasted without me even having to roll on it. She never used it for the rest of the fight either.
It may have been broken by line of sight perhaps, since there was a pillar in the way.Egg Shen wrote:Hmmm, I'll use a level 30 to test this out. I was at what is usually the edge of a creature's vision, running by as a hasted and invisible monk and she still managed to get me.Cenerae wrote:If the brood mama is meant to be a petrification threat, might want to increase the effective reach on the petrification gaze.
I saw her, panicked and ran, and the gaze attack was wasted without me even having to roll on it. She never used it for the rest of the fight either.
That's a good idea. Very similar to what was done to East of Mistlake for the soil quest. Strange how no one talks about that one, since it's far more dangerous to complete. My only issue with that idea though, once the lvl 4 character grabs the egg, they'll just down a pot of invisy before moving on to the next quest. I'm actually considering moving that plate too.Tsidkenu wrote:Possible solution.
1. Remove True Seeing from Broodmother.
2. Add removal of Invis/Stealth upon theft of an egg.
3. It is then up to the player to leg it, fight mumsy, or some other option I've not yet considered
Wow, you actually ARE targeting the quests from a risk vs. reward/balance perspective? You're an area designer and out of all the things you could do to help improve the UD, you've decided to spend your time reworking the quests?Cubicle wrote:That's a good idea. Very similar to what was done to East of Mistlake for the soil quest. Strange how no one talks about that one, since it's far more dangerous to complete. My only issue with that idea though, once the lvl 4 character grabs the egg, they'll just down a pot of invisy before moving on to the next quest. I'm actually considering moving that plate too.Tsidkenu wrote:Possible solution.
1. Remove True Seeing from Broodmother.
2. Add removal of Invis/Stealth upon theft of an egg.
3. It is then up to the player to leg it, fight mumsy, or some other option I've not yet considered
Maybe there's a way to aggro mobs while holding a certain item. If the Basilisk can smell the egg leaving the nest, then they'll give chase. That makes sense to me. I'll need to do some research though.
I'll look into the petrification gaze issue.
Which surface merchant sells scrolls of protection from petrification?
Who is this guy? What character does he even play in the UD?Egg Shen wrote: Wow, you actually ARE targeting the quests from a risk vs. reward/balance perspective? You're an area designer and out of all the things you could do to help improve the UD, you've decided to spend your time reworking the quests?
I mean, I have a level 30 drow, so I suppose it doesn't really affect me, but I DO want new blood to occasionally make it's way down to the depths.
As for the soil quest, it's "new." It doesn't have 10 years of being a source of sustenance for struggling UD characters who want a break from the MMO grind, but still want to advance their mechanical power on occasion. I didn't even know about it until after I'd been back for over a month when flasmix dragged me along for it (and as a level 30, I didn't need it). And I don't remember it being filled with true sight + save or "die," but it's possible I just didn't notice it with a max level character.
Either way, good luck with your endeavors. I'm psyched to see the reaction you get on the surface when you prevent some simple potions of invis from allowing us to gather up 8,000ish xp in a matter of 2 hours. I assume you'll be heading there next?
Alright, after re-reading my post, I definitely came off as condescending and ungrateful. I apologize.Cubicle wrote:Who is this guy? What character does he even play in the UD?Egg Shen wrote: Wow, you actually ARE targeting the quests from a risk vs. reward/balance perspective? You're an area designer and out of all the things you could do to help improve the UD, you've decided to spend your time reworking the quests?
I mean, I have a level 30 drow, so I suppose it doesn't really affect me, but I DO want new blood to occasionally make it's way down to the depths.
As for the soil quest, it's "new." It doesn't have 10 years of being a source of sustenance for struggling UD characters who want a break from the MMO grind, but still want to advance their mechanical power on occasion. I didn't even know about it until after I'd been back for over a month when flasmix dragged me along for it (and as a level 30, I didn't need it). And I don't remember it being filled with true sight + save or "die," but it's possible I just didn't notice it with a max level character.
Either way, good luck with your endeavors. I'm psyched to see the reaction you get on the surface when you prevent some simple potions of invis from allowing us to gather up 8,000ish xp in a matter of 2 hours. I assume you'll be heading there next?
Looking at your post history, there's a gap from 08/2010 - 03/2017. Were you contributing anything in those missing 6 1/2 years?
Look man, if you want something implemented. Offer up alternatives or suggestions, don't attack the builder. I'm doing this for the players...for free. Most of the edits I've done were based off of player suggestions. The Tarpit Basilisk is no different...I just tweaked it a bit. If you don't agree with something, give me a suggestion, I always listen to the UD playerbase. I defend my work, but most of the time I make changes based on the majority, because I am an UD only area Dev(unless requested otherwise).
Check it out, this is what I've done so far. The list below doesn't include the edits I've done on top of my own edits, which is a lot. Do you see players complaining about any of that? If so, let me know.
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But these quests are repeatable on a weekly basis. You learn pretty quickly whether or not you can pull it off. So after the first time, typically the risk in well understood, and most people (IC and OOC) will only take it if success seems reasonably likely.Theodore01 wrote:It was a good change, basilisks without a gaze are just meh.
I like that there is a risk when doing a quest - it's up to the player to decide if they dare.