Baldur's Gate : The Sword Coast Chronicles : NWN2 Persistent World

kevinmanuel wrote:HI,

I don't like writing these super long-winded walls of text posts, so I'll try and keep this somewhat short.The state of the game has largely geared towards it being primarily treated as a TDM combat sim, and while that's nothing new, and isn't the case 100% of the time, I think it's time we actually made some policy to satisfy those who want a little bit of RP.I'm not saying we should have Bay-tier RP where you try to act like a real person in that situation, but I think we should have a slightly higher standard than we do now. In my ideal view, the perfect RP-level is one where you can still be wacky and memey, and still have conflict in the game, but not act with the currently common silent drone stun-cuff-strip mentality, where you feel like you must prove your skills. I know a lot of people have fun playing it like that, and that's fine, but I think a large amount of players want a little more than that from the game, so that's why I'd propose we enforce a little bit of standards on Basil, while leaving Sybil as it always was for people who enjoy that. That way, we'd not alienate anyone, and everyone could (in theory) be happy.When I talked to PKP about this briefly, he said that with our current shortage of admins, this would be impractical to enforce, however I think that if we just had explicitly stated text saying what each server was oriented towards, with the rules that follow, most people would abide by the standards, and those who didn't wouldn't make much extra work than admins already have to do.People have been talking about this kind of thing for years, and I hope that with a legitimate discussion, we could maybe finally get somewhere with it.

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NegInfinity wrote:

kevinmanuel wrote:HI,

I don't like writing these super long-winded walls of text posts, so I'll try and keep this somewhat short.The state of the game has largely geared towards it being primarily treated as a TDM combat sim, and while that's nothing new, and isn't the case 100% of the time, I think it's time we actually made some policy to satisfy those who want a little bit of RP.I'm not saying we should have Bay-tier RP where you try to act like a real person in that situation, but I think we should have a slightly higher standard than we do now. In my ideal view, the perfect RP-level is one where you can still be wacky and memey, and still have conflict in the game, but not act with the currently common silent drone stun-cuff-strip mentality, where you feel like you must prove your skills. I know a lot of people have fun playing it like that, and that's fine, but I think a large amount of players want a little more than that from the game, so that's why I'd propose we enforce a little bit of standards on Basil, while leaving Sybil as it always was for people who enjoy that. That way, we'd not alienate anyone, and everyone could (in theory) be happy.When I talked to PKP about this briefly, he said that with our current shortage of admins, this would be impractical to enforce, however I think that if we just had explicitly stated text saying what each server was oriented towards, with the rules that follow, most people would abide by the standards, and those who didn't wouldn't make much extra work than admins already have to do.People have been talking about this kind of thing for years, and I hope that with a legitimate discussion, we could maybe finally get somewhere with it.

Fore more details:

Thanks

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I don't like writing these super long-winded walls of text posts, so I'll try and keep this somewhat short.

The state of the game has largely geared towards it being primarily treated as a TDM combat sim, and while that's nothing new, and isn't the case 100% of the time, I think it's time we actually made some policy to satisfy those who want a little bit of RP.

I'm not saying we should have Bay-tier RP where you try to act like a real person in that situation, but I think we should have a slightly higher standard than we do now. In my ideal view, the perfect RP-level is one where you can still be wacky and memey, and still have conflict in the game, but not act with the currently common silent drone stun-cuff-strip mentality, where you feel like you must prove your skills.

I know a lot of people have fun playing it like that, and that's fine, but I think a large amount of players want a little more than that from the game, so that's why I'd propose we enforce a little bit of standards on Basil, while leaving Sybil as it always was for people who enjoy that. That way, we'd not alienate anyone, and everyone could (in theory) be happy.

When I talked to PKP about this briefly, he said that with our current shortage of admins, this would be impractical to enforce, however I think that if we just had explicitly stated text saying what each server was oriented towards, with the rules that follow, most people would abide by the standards, and those who didn't wouldn't make much extra work than admins already have to do.

People have been talking about this kind of thing for years, and I hope that with a legitimate discussion, we could maybe finally get somewhere with it.

Written by member Bawhopennn, april 24, 2017.

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https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 33&t=10836

KOPOJIbPAKOB wrote:p.s. It is really weird to read about IC conflicts as something that ruins RP while we already have weaboo elves roleplaying like: "hi vendui wassup go party?".

Sun Wukong wrote:

KOPOJIbPAKOB wrote:p.s. It is really weird to read about IC conflicts as something that ruins RP while we already have weaboo elves roleplaying like: "hi vendui wassup go party?".

Those weaboo elves do not even use proper katanas. Only 'LotR-movie-themed' get your hand chopped off swords.

niapet wrote:

KOPOJIbPAKOB wrote:Right here you blame conflict RP, while it is the most interesting thing on the server (imho). Perhaps you actually meant that many people don't see the difference between IC and OOC and unable to accepts defeats? It would be more correct.

p.s. It is really weird to read about IC conflicts as something that ruins RP while we already have weaboo elves roleplaying like: "hi vendui wassup go party?".

Indeed, The most fun RP I've had is conflict with the above poster's character. I think in a world of orcs and elves, and good and evil as tangible realities, conflict would be the norm. I think player vs player (not necessarily actual fighting) and guild vs guild can generate a lot of story in the absence of DMs.

Its important to understand OOC vs IC. I harbor no OOC anger about anything to to with this conflict and I'm pretty sure they other side feels the same. As long as people keep conflict IC its great fun.

Hoihe wrote:

Sun Wukong wrote:

KOPOJIbPAKOB wrote:p.s. It is really weird to read about IC conflicts as something that ruins RP while we already have weaboo elves roleplaying like: "hi vendui wassup go party?".

Those weaboo elves do not even use proper katanas. Only 'LotR-movie-themed' get your hand chopped off swords.

Although I do praise the rapier style hilt.

Hoihe wrote:Although I do praise the rapier style hilt.

Sun Wukong wrote:

Hoihe wrote:Although I do praise the rapier style hilt.

Have you seen the NWN2 combat animations? Most of the attacks are slashes, even with a rapier, and blades have a tendency to slide down other blades, which results in lost fingers and/or hands.

A sword doesn't exactly need a large guard if it is used as a stabbing weapon, and hence the purpose is to keep the wielder's own hand from slipping to the blade. But stabbing requires control and skill, and it is much easier to just swing a blunt instrument around.

niapet wrote:Cuts are not wild and uncontrolled... edge alignment is a difficult skill and very important to good making good cuts.

Rapiers are terrible cutting weapons. That does not mean they can't cut but compared to a longsword, katana or talwar they are wholly infferior (at cutting)...

Also..armor..swords suck against armor, period. This is a game though. Why can rapiers slash? How can arming swords penetrate armor?

magic

PS oh also the elf swords from lotr that the in game models are based on had little mini quillions on the blade. This was seen on greatsword to allow them to be used like spears by gripping the base of the blade. So the elf swords should be fine. Maybe they even have invisible magic quillions 0.o