Baldur's Gate : The Sword Coast Chronicles : NWN2 Persistent World

Not true at all. Infact if anything crafting makes a server better. Sorry but that's a fact.

also there use to be plenty of DM event based crafting but cries of favoritism ruins that even when a standard procedure -that anyone can make- to get the item by request is made but people still complain

I look forward to the day crafting guilds arise!

V'rass wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:10 pm Not true at all. Infact if anything crafting makes a server better. Sorry but that's a fact.

No, it's an opinion.

Either way, the crafting we are looking at is mainly mundane, as I understand it. It's a flavour, not power creep.

Deathgrowl wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:10 pm

V'rass wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:10 pm Not true at all. Infact if anything crafting makes a server better. Sorry but that's a fact.

No, it's an opinion.

Either way, the crafting we are looking at is mainly mundane, as I understand it. It's a flavour, not power creep.

Flavour based crafting reinforces RP and still allows for crafting guilds, player economy and whatnot without the downside of power creep.

Here’s my 2 pennies: if you want Crafting to be awesome, it will be allowed/supported to ADD/SUBTRACT from Items found via the RIG.

Sooooooo maaaaaaaaannnnnyyyyyy ttttiiiimmmmeeeessss one finds an Item with something special but it also so severely lacks a basic attribute that every PC needs in order to “deal” with Content, as it has been designed.

For example, thousands of times one will find a weapon with 1d8 Massive Crits, but no EB or even AB. So unless you play a GMW casting toon, the weapon would be useless.

This is just one small example out of so many others I could make, but I’ll save you the Eye Burn.

Make it so Powers That Be!

I dont know if crafting leads to more mmo behaviour. I say it depends from person to person and what each desires.
What I do think is that if the crafting is too powerful, it may make certain classes or spells less needed, at least at certain levels. That is what I experienced on a place where you could put stuff on items that are normally cast by clerics or mages, but which then suddenly were also available to lets say a strong fighter.

Agog_Fr wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:05 am The huge problem with crafting, it's it tends to transform a RP server, into a MMO server.

I already feel like trapped on MMO server. Endless circling in areas designed to be walked in a circle because there is no other where to go.

Steve wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:07 pm Here’s my 2 pennies: if you want Crafting to be awesome, it will be allowed/supported to ADD/SUBTRACT from Items found via the RIG.

Sooooooo maaaaaaaaannnnnyyyyyy ttttiiiimmmmeeeessss one finds an Item with something special but it also so severely lacks a basic attribute that every PC needs in order to “deal” with Content, as it has been designed.

For example, thousands of times one will find a weapon with 1d8 Massive Crits, but no EB or even AB. So unless you play a GMW casting toon, the weapon would be useless.

This is just one small example out of so many others I could make, but I’ll save you the Eye Burn.

Make it so Powers That Be!

That's it

Would love to see crafting here. And rather than detract from RP, I think it would boost it immensely as well as immersion, as people would be engaging in entirely natural behaviour within a medieval setting, i.e. characters actually trying to make a living by other means than simply adventuring or sitting around in a campfire all day. Characters could also be specialized in specific fields, and find a new and unique purpose. And going to specific places for resource gathering would be really fun, rather than just for the "oh I have that quest everybody else has".

Blackman D wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:18 pm also there use to be plenty of DM event based crafting but cries of favoritism ruins that even when a standard procedure -that anyone can make- to get the item by request is made but people still complain

This is kinda side tracking but I remember the event chain fondly where K'yon got to forge his sword Jealous Edge and sadly I also remember a lot of trouble around favouritism cry outs.

I can only say that I really liked the DM giving away cool stuff after an event chain and to be clear the item is far from powerful being a +1 ab and a small acid damage bonus.

I would enjoy crafting if it were more of an ecstatically oriented thing rather than actual power being gained.

Heya,

Is there any update on this? Something like, yes or no to extra (future) crafting options on BG, and, yes or no it will be for this year (or 'soon')?

-Lum

I'm don't really understand how all craft systems are a bane of roleplay. The one's I've experienced in nwn2 have been many and varied, some not so good, some outstanding, but never so bad that they left me with scars and wanting to banish them all.

A craft system can add balance to the avaialable equipment, complimenting the random items and an enchanting system. It can certainly add to roleplay too, allowing non-combat characters to thrive, cooperative crafting, new guilds and a range of professions.
True, the players who preferred to grind for a lot of gold can grind out bottles or helmets instead, but it's just a personal choice and if I play a miner there maybe a lot of holes to dig. Furthermore, if a carpenter makes a fancy new bow out of a novel wood then credit to their invention, but it can be open to others of equally sufficient skill.

lum wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:13 am Heya,

Is there any update on this? Something like, yes or no to extra (future) crafting options on BG, and, yes or no it will be for this year (or 'soon')?

-Lum

I am a bit jaded on this. The server has been saying for a decade they have something in the works and nothing......Not like this is/was/should be a hard thing. However interest in finishing the thing is not there from the main Devs who could get it done.

While I understand that the admin doesn't want to make Devs work on things they don't want to. At what point are we going to get a foot put down and say no more of your stuff will go in until this gets done?

I am pretty sure over half this server wants a true crafting system in and to be ignored in this is quite a snub in my opinion to players and what they want to enjoy their time here.

Originally, our plan was just to turn one of the vanilla crafting systems on if we were not able to put anything together by the end of the year. But that's just crafting for its own sake at that point, since it doesn't give you the RP of gathering materials and making mundane items. Plus, since we're changing admins, we probably won't promise that, since that'll be their call.

Even that would require a lot of work, too.

We have one dev looking at and working on a crafting system, but they're juggling it with a lot of other projects and real life right now, so I don't expect anything this month in any case.