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Re: Spying With Shadow Simulacrum

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Something to that end happened by accident to me once.

To mind, USUALLY, Simulacra can't cast spells (or should not be able to, to my knowledge), so the situation should never arise and if it arises is strictly a mechanical issue.
A simulacrum of mine once vamp-feasted an illusionary me (which was really trippy), but that was supposed to not have happened that way.
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Re: Spying With Shadow Simulacrum

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Korchas wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:11 pm Something to that end happened by accident to me once.

To mind, USUALLY, Simulacra can't cast spells (or should not be able to, to my knowledge), so the situation should never arise and if it arises is strictly a mechanical issue.
A simulacrum of mine once vamp-feasted an illusionary me (which was really trippy), but that was supposed to not have happened that way.
cuz Vamp Feast is not a 'spell' it is a feat, mechanically....
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Re: Spying With Shadow Simulacrum

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chad878262 wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:14 pm
Korchas wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:11 pm Something to that end happened by accident to me once.

To mind, USUALLY, Simulacra can't cast spells (or should not be able to, to my knowledge), so the situation should never arise and if it arises is strictly a mechanical issue.
A simulacrum of mine once vamp-feasted an illusionary me (which was really trippy), but that was supposed to not have happened that way.
cuz Vamp Feast is not a 'spell' it is a feat, mechanically....
I know. Which fits with his question about the blackguard undead and the like, since those are a feat too, mechanically.
And which I think whoever I reported it to wanted to fix, no idea if that ever happened, so I'm warning him ahead of time.
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Re: Spying With Shadow Simulacrum

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Is there any way to make it so the spell doesn't give the character sheet info?
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Re: Spying With Shadow Simulacrum

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wangxiuming wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:37 pm Is there any way to make it so the spell doesn't give the character sheet info?
It's like a dominated monster, so i don't think so.

Edit: not in it's current state at least, so unless you change the spell behavior dramatically it's going to keep cloning skills, attributes and etc. To the point visible to the caster.
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Re: Spying With Shadow Simulacrum

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It pisses me off beyond any possible measure when people just cast this spell on your character without even consent nor warning like it's some casual thing, and then make silly excuses or pretend they thought it's just a harmless buff like mage armor. It's especially annoying during some PvE runs in a rush of combat, because it's really inconvenient to start confrontation in those conditions.

Imho it must be included in PvP rules that casting shadow simulacrum / glass doppelganger is a clear PvP consent. Unless the player gave permission. I think it's completely fair to toggle hostile and attack the mage immediately after that spell with no warning, since you weren't warned before casting SM as well (not even talking about permission). The fact that pisses me off the most here is almost everyone knows this spell allows to browse character sheet (including skill bonuses, feats, everything), but everyone pretends to be fools and like "oh, but I just created it to kill those monsters, I do it all the time and didn't knooow..." really, people?!
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