Baldur's Gate : The Sword Coast Chronicles : NWN2 Persistent World

PS where to get manticore greatsword? Can't find any good swords - swinging +2

lavd wrote: ↑Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:47 pm @zhazz is it not going to work with greatsword? wasted feat Weapon finesse to get Duelist
What's 2 MWM:P + 10 NH?
What about AB?
Why not just 7 Duelist for Elaborate parry? Build has to int anyway and can't wear armor
Whirling Dervish for Evasion?

The bonus damage from Duelist's Precise Strike only applies to weapons that deal only Piercing damage. So can't use it with Greatswords.
2 MWM:P is +2 damage from Melee Weapon Mastery: Piercing.
+10 NH is +10 damage from Northlander Hewing.
AB is going to be 44 after IPA, when factoring in a +4 STR item, and a +4 EB Spear.
Duelist gets +2d6 Piercing damage at 10th level for any Piercing weapons they use.
Duelist can wear Light Armor, which makes Bearskin Armor the best option.
Whirling Dervish grants Evasion, which opens up Expose Weakness.

When considering armor, Duelist feats require no armor.

Right. Wasn't fully awake when I wrote that. I'll revisit it after some more sleep.

Bard26/F4 with STR 28+4 AB 33+2str+4eb+4greater heroism +7inspire=50-6ipa=44

swords is at the epic vendor at BG market.

@zhazz Oh Expose weakens is that funny always hit attack. Nice. Your build indeed fully develops with pierce weapon.

Does Northlander Hewing work with One Weapon?



@Theodore01
Thank you, will check the sword

51 fighter 18+ full BAB baseline which should hit most Str28+4AB: 9Str+4weapon+30bab+2WepMastery+4EpicFocus+1EpicPowers+1Suprea=51
vs http://nwn2db.com/build/?326016 9Srt+27bab+4wep+2heroism+2inspire+2WepMastery+4EpicFocus+1EpicPowers=51 (without frenzy)
vs Bard26/F4 with STR 28+4 AB 23bab+9Str+4wep+4greater heroism+(isn't inspire 6? 5+Inspirational Boost)7+1EpicPowers+1Focus=48-49?

And if doing IPA then Enhanced PA feels necessary https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title ... wer_Attack I think id adds like +20 damage 2H
Maybe exchange 5Bard for 5Frensed berserk? Plus you get Double strike on Cleave
Plus extra attack per round on Frenzy. Looks like win-win.
Or do we need 30CL for bard for some reason? Ethereal Visage will still be 25x2rounds vs 60rounds 5vs6 minutes
Like B21/F4/FB5

PS think to use IPA we need AB ~54 so we can get around to Fighter baseline 48-51
Initially thought of B14/F13/FB3 (B15 to get Ethereal Visage almost 4min)
26bab+4weapon+9str+6inspire+4GHeroism+4EpicFocus+2WepMastery+1EpicPowers=56
I went for Assassin to get longer concealment from great invis and hips

On the server mobs are generally set up with high HP and comparatively low AC, therefore you don't need such high AB. It's of course always pleasant if you can fit it in, but it is not needed at all, and you might even get bored if you play overly powerful builds.

Caster level 30 is generally what people aim for, as the cap on greater dispel was raised to 20 (and therefore there's a 5% dispel chance if you're CL 29, 10 % for CL 28, etc .. if you face a monster with a CL 20+ greater dispel, those exist).

@zhazz I think Jalib - the guy with 2H mace who won today meele has your build

lavd wrote: ↑Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:06 pm @zhazz I think Jalib - the guy with 2H mace who won today meele has your build

Nah. He's using a Warmace, not a Spear. So can't use it. None of the classes in the build I suggested here get the ethereal ability he uses. So it's something completely different

If you want a classic glasscannon without inventing a bicycle, your build is F 14 / FB 5 / WM 7 / R4. Made of wet paper, but has ridicolous damage (crits would be around 250~ with a spear and 200~ with a greatsword), full UMD and expose weakness in addition thanks to rogue.

Another option, a more exotic solution for the same artchetype, would be F 8 / FB 5 / WM 7 / Dervish 10. Faster and having even bigger damage, but it relies on active dervish feats that have limited uses per day.

If you don't want to RP a berserker, try F 10 / WM 7 / Dervish 10 / R 3 or some such.

I wouldn't even bother with EDM builds here, it's not what you're looking for.

@zhazz it was Improved reaction (haste) he was doing, or maybe I mixed something
and dwarf would know if expose weakness
ain't expose weakness and shield bash always hit?

@KOPOJIbPAKOB FB totally fine. WM feels not worth it, at least as I remember, even though Dervish lays path for WM
Dervish seems attractive option
Bard or Assassin on the other had can provide some spell protection (I think assassin's non dispelable)
Maybe Bard15/FB5/Dervish10

lavd wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:52 am @zhazz it was Improved reaction (haste) he was doing, or maybe I mixed something

Adrian was the one doing that.

lavd wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:52 am @zhazz it was Improved reaction (haste) he was doing, or maybe I mixed something
and dwarf would know if expose weakness
ain't expose weakness and shield bash always hit?

@KOPOJIbPAKOB FB totally fine. WM feels not worth it, at least as I remember, even though Dervish lays path for WM
Dervish seems attractive option
Bard or Assassin on the other had can provide some spell protection (I think assassin's non dispelable)
Maybe Bard15/FB5/Dervish10

Because Song and Hymn are so strong, most people that go bard aim to get at least 21 into it. 25bard/5FB is not a bad build at all.

@Rhifox yeah, you must be right
can't be dervish dance with mace either.


@Zkenic yes. true. Are there epic feats to enchant the song?


@Valefort thank you for the tip. Never thought of that. So maybe focus on AC?



Anyone knows Northlander Hewing works with One Weapon?

Northlander Hewing does not work with One Weapon, if I recall correctly.

If you are going 25bard/5FB you dont really worry about bard feats. Epic Inspiration takes 25Cha. All you got to do is have a base 13-16 cha and pump strength to the max. It gives you higher AB, more damage, and more carry capacity (hey it helps!). An example 25bard/5FB build - Human - 16/14/13/14/8/13, with 7 strength bumps and 3 epic feats to strength, 26, with items/spells you can have 30/18/16/14/8/16. Mithral chainmail, displacement/mirror image, good AB, song+hymn of requiem, heavy hitting. Got everything you need.