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Re: Wizard or Sorcerer?

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 12:52 am
by Azroth
Wizard is king

Re: Wizard or Sorcerer?

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:25 am
by Random_wanderer
Tsidkenu wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 6:24 am
Rhifox wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 9:16 am Every spell can be scribed now. If there's any you find are missing let us know, but most should be scribable. However, not all spells are available in stores, and the linked guide, while fairly complete, is still missing a lot of new stuff (or says merchants have things they don't, mainly Soubar scribe vendor is missing some things the guide says it has).
If anyone cares to give me updates I'll fix the OP of the guide.
Thanks for the guide Tsiadkenu, amazing work.

Re: Wizard or Sorcerer?

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:34 am
by Random_wanderer
Hi everyone,
Thanks for your messages and feedback. Been really helpful.
I am going with Wizard and /scholar/archmage/thaumaturge, 5/10/10/5
I have some more questions if anyone can answer.
- Does the Archmage Shaping mastery affect the spells that target the ground such as evard's black tentacles?
- As a Thumaturge, I am going all the way to Epic Conjuration, to make sense char-wise. Is that worth upgrading evocation further as well? I have spell focus currently.
- Is casting Necromany spells evil act or something? I was wondering if neutral chars would use this school. My char is LN, any arcane spell would be considered evil such as wail of banshee?
Thanks.

Re: Wizard or Sorcerer?

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:30 am
by Tsidkenu
Random_wanderer wrote: Is that worth upgrading evocation further as well? I have spell focus currently.
If you want your DCs to be higher in Evocation, sure. Depends how your character looks feat-wise. Since you only have 5 wizard (base) levels, you'll only be getting 1 bonus wizard feat.
Random_wanderer wrote:Is casting Necromany spells evil act or something? I was wondering if neutral chars would use this school. My char is LN, any arcane spell would be considered evil such as wail of banshee?
Only spells with the "Evil" descriptor are evil in nature (e.g. Animate Dead, Create Undead). Some necromancy spells are good aligned (e.g. Opalescent Glare). Unless these thing are specifically mentioned in the spell description, consider the spell "neutral" in terms of alignment.

Re: Wizard or Sorcerer?

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 3:33 am
by Random_wanderer
Thanks. Anyone know the anseer for the one below
- Does the Archmage Shaping mastery affect the spells that target the ground such as evard's black tentacles?

Re: Wizard or Sorcerer?

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 11:46 am
by Deathgrowl
Random_wanderer wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 3:33 am - Does the Archmage Shaping mastery affect the spells that target the ground such as evard's black tentacles?
No, only instant effects. Fireballs, horrid wilting and so on.

Re: Wizard or Sorcerer?

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:26 pm
by Random_wanderer
At the end, I've gone with Wizard/scholar/archmage/thaumaturge and am quite happy with the spellbook and the variety you can have there. But the number of spells is definitely less than sorcerer, and also, the spontaneous casting as a sorcerer was also really good. Having said that, I think I still personally preferred the wizard so far.

Thaumaturge is an amazing class I think, love having two summons. It's amazing, and they are really beefed up compared to the regular summons.

- I have one normal feat left to choose at lvl 18. I was going to get 'spell penetration' but there are many items available for this feat I think so seemed a bit redundant. So thinking about combat expertise. Is this a good pick for the wizard +3 AC could be always useful I thought?
( He will have epic conjuration focus, and evocation focus, and all metamagic obviously other feats)

- Epic levels, any spells worth taking?

Thanks, everyone.

Re: Wizard or Sorcerer?

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:36 pm
by Rhifox
Random_wanderer wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:26 pm At the end, I've gone with Wizard/scholar/archmage/thaumaturge and am quite happy with the spellbook and the variety you can have there. But the number of spells is definitely less than sorcerer, and also, the spontaneous casting as a sorcerer was also really good. Having said that, I think I still personally preferred the wizard so far.

Thaumaturge is an amazing class I think, love having two summons. It's amazing, and they are really beefed up compared to the regular summons.

- I have one normal feat left to choose at lvl 18. I was going to get 'spell penetration' but there are many items available for this feat I think so seemed a bit redundant. So thinking about combat expertise. Is this a good pick for the wizard +3 AC could be always useful I thought?
( He will have epic conjuration focus, and evocation focus, and all metamagic obviously other feats)

- Epic levels, any spells worth taking?

Thanks, everyone.
Combat Expertise is a great pick, especially if you intend on using shapechange at all.

You can also consider Greater Evocation Focus so you can reignite all Evocation spells of levels 1-6 (if you have all metamagic, then preparing a level 6 Evocation spell on a level 8 or 9 slot can still be reignited, though the reignited version won't have any metamagic on it).

Re: Wizard or Sorcerer?

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:43 pm
by Tsidkenu
Random_wanderer wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:26 pm - Epic levels, any spells worth taking?

Thanks, everyone.
As a conjurer, you definitely want Epic Gate, especially if you start dealing with True Name summons. Have fun!

Re: Wizard or Sorcerer?

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:01 pm
by Random_wanderer
Hi all,
I have gone with 'greater Evocation focus' to enable reignite option.
Reignite Evocation? Is this suppose to work automatically or do I somehow enable something? After casting an evocation spell, I get a message that it is active, what do I do after that?
And everything I cast is metamagic like empower. I hope it works with metamagic. Thanks everyone.

Re: Wizard or Sorcerer?

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:49 pm
by Rhifox
Random_wanderer wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:01 pm Hi all,
I have gone with 'greater Evocation focus' to enable reignite option.
Reignite Evocation? Is this suppose to work automatically or do I somehow enable something? After casting an evocation spell, I get a message that it is active, what do I do after that?
And everything I cast is metamagic like empower. I hope it works with metamagic. Thanks everyone.
Drag the 'Reignite Evocation' feat to your hotbar. You use that when it tells you it's active.

Re: Wizard or Sorcerer?

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 8:55 am
by Random_wanderer
Rhifox wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:49 pm
Random_wanderer wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:01 pm Hi all,
I have gone with 'greater Evocation focus' to enable reignite option.
Reignite Evocation? Is this suppose to work automatically or do I somehow enable something? After casting an evocation spell, I get a message that it is active, what do I do after that?
And everything I cast is metamagic like empower. I hope it works with metamagic. Thanks everyone.
Drag the 'Reignite Evocation' feat to your hotbar. You use that when it tells you it's active.
Thanks Rhifox.

Re: Wizard or Sorcerer?

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:05 am
by Random_wanderer
Hi all,
Can someone explain to me about the true name summonings? I have some questions if someone who knows can answer.
So If I find a name in a dusty tome (which I found before but with no name in it), or somewhere else, I call this being and negotiate with it?
Do I need to negotiate and pass diplomacy and lore-planes checks to come to an agreement?
I have 9 Diplomacy and 17 Lore-planes right now. (No Buff) Do I need to increase these significantly?
do these cost gold to cast?
Are these really noticeably more powerful than regular planars? Do the conjuration focus bonuses apply?
Thanks

Re: Wizard or Sorcerer?

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 10:45 am
by izzul
Random_wanderer wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:05 am Hi all,
Can someone explain to me about the true name summonings? I have some questions if someone who knows can answer.
So If I find a name in a dusty tome (which I found before but with no name in it), or somewhere else, I call this being and negotiate with it?
Do I need to negotiate and pass diplomacy and lore-planes checks to come to an agreement?
I have 9 Diplomacy and 17 Lore-planes right now. (No Buff) Do I need to increase these significantly?
do these cost gold to cast?
Are these really noticeably more powerful than regular planars? Do the conjuration focus bonuses apply?
Thanks
-you cast Greater Planar Binding, Gate, or Epic Gate to a diamond, canary diamond, or blue diamond
-then you write the true name, name to the gem
-summon it
-discuss the payment(if you fail diplomacy check, the price goes up 150-300%)
-everytime you want to cast it, use the spell to the gem, and not to the ground

Re: Wizard or Sorcerer?

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 1:21 am
by Random_wanderer
izzul wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 10:45 am
Random_wanderer wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:05 am Hi all,
Can someone explain to me about the true name summonings? I have some questions if someone who knows can answer.
So If I find a name in a dusty tome (which I found before but with no name in it), or somewhere else, I call this being and negotiate with it?
Do I need to negotiate and pass diplomacy and lore-planes checks to come to an agreement?
I have 9 Diplomacy and 17 Lore-planes right now. (No Buff) Do I need to increase these significantly?
do these cost gold to cast?
Are these really noticeably more powerful than regular planars? Do the conjuration focus bonuses apply?
Thanks
-you cast Greater Planar Binding, Gate, or Epic Gate to a diamond, canary diamond, or blue diamond
-then you write the true name, name to the gem
-summon it
-discuss the payment(if you fail diplomacy check, the price goes up 150-300%)
-everytime you want to cast it, use the spell to the gem, and not to the ground
Hi. Thanks for the reply.
What kind of payment we we are talking about any range? And is it one off payment? What range of diplomacy required?
Thanks