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Re: Warlock Class to open up Shifter

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 5:56 am
by Steve
Theodore01 wrote: Sat Jun 11, 2022 5:44 am The key issue here is - that it is the druid - which opens natural spell and casting in a shifter form.
A shifter/warlock would not allow spellcasting in shapes.
But neither does Wizard/Sorc!

Re: Warlock Class to open up Shifter

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 11:48 am
by DaloLorn
Theodore01 wrote: Sat Jun 11, 2022 5:44 am The key issue here is - that it is the druid - which opens natural spell and casting in a shifter form.
A shifter/warlock would not allow spellcasting in shapes.
Why not?
Steve wrote: Sat Jun 11, 2022 5:56 am But neither does Wizard/Sorc!
It does, actually! But only in Shifter shapes, and you still need to take Natural Spell.

Re: Warlock Class to open up Shifter

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 11:54 am
by Steve
DaloLorn wrote: Sat Jun 11, 2022 11:48 am

It does, actually! But only in Shifter shapes, and you still need to take Natural Spell.
You can't take Natural Spell feat without Druid Wildshape 1/day (granted at lvl 5 Druid).

Re: Warlock Class to open up Shifter

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 12:18 pm
by renshouj
I don't even see that as a key issue? Casting while shifted is NOT necessary for shifter to be good. It's a cool bonus, and druids probably make the best shifters, but hardly necessary. And steve is right, you need 5 druid levels to take Natural Spell, but again, just a cool bonus

Also, just to say, I'm really behind this idea. Warlock 6 (since its the lvl they get a lesser invo) unlocking shifter would be gucci

Re: Warlock Class to open up Shifter

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 1:42 pm
by DaloLorn
Steve wrote: Sat Jun 11, 2022 11:54 am
DaloLorn wrote: Sat Jun 11, 2022 11:48 am

It does, actually! But only in Shifter shapes, and you still need to take Natural Spell.
You can't take Natural Spell feat without Druid Wildshape 1/day (granted at lvl 5 Druid).
renshouj wrote: Sat Jun 11, 2022 12:18 pm I don't even see that as a key issue? Casting while shifted is NOT necessary for shifter to be good. It's a cool bonus, and druids probably make the best shifters, but hardly necessary. And steve is right, you need 5 druid levels to take Natural Spell, but again, just a cool bonus

Also, just to say, I'm really behind this idea. Warlock 6 (since its the lvl they get a lesser invo) unlocking shifter would be gucci
Nope. You can take it as a Shifter, as long as you have the required 13 WIS. Rinn takes advantage of this by casting Extended Displacement (3 minutes each, despite being a full Shifter...) while in werewolf form. Or any form, really, but the werewolf's got a few PvP kills to its name, partly because of her magic.

Re: Warlock Class to open up Shifter

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 1:51 pm
by renshouj
DaloLorn wrote: Sat Jun 11, 2022 1:42 pm Nope. You can take it as a Shifter, as long as you have the required 13 WIS. Rinn takes advantage of this by casting Extended Displacement (3 minutes each, despite being a full Shifter...) while in werewolf form. Or any form, really, but the werewolf's got a few PvP kills to its name, partly because of her magic.
You can take it without having wildshape??? It's listed as a requirement



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Re: Warlock Class to open up Shifter

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 1:56 pm
by DaloLorn
renshouj wrote: Sat Jun 11, 2022 1:51 pm
DaloLorn wrote: Sat Jun 11, 2022 1:42 pm Nope. You can take it as a Shifter, as long as you have the required 13 WIS. Rinn takes advantage of this by casting Extended Displacement (3 minutes each, despite being a full Shifter...) while in werewolf form. Or any form, really, but the werewolf's got a few PvP kills to its name, partly because of her magic.
You can take it without having wildshape??? It's listed as a requirement
I can only assume Matelener never updated the wiki. He posted about implementing it on the forums, though, back when it was first suggested.

Re: Warlock Class to open up Shifter

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 2:39 pm
by Steve
DaloLorn wrote: Sat Jun 11, 2022 1:56 pm
renshouj wrote: Sat Jun 11, 2022 1:51 pm
DaloLorn wrote: Sat Jun 11, 2022 1:42 pm Nope. You can take it as a Shifter, as long as you have the required 13 WIS. Rinn takes advantage of this by casting Extended Displacement (3 minutes each, despite being a full Shifter...) while in werewolf form. Or any form, really, but the werewolf's got a few PvP kills to its name, partly because of her magic.
You can take it without having wildshape??? It's listed as a requirement
I can only assume Matelener never updated the wiki. He posted about implementing it on the forums, though, back when it was first suggested.
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Re: Warlock Class to open up Shifter

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 4:32 pm
by Kanada
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Re: Warlock Class to open up Shifter

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:02 pm
by Kanada
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I am very interested in this.