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Re: Elf Shop Items That Matter

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 5:00 pm
by Bad Omens
Well, I am looking forward to the Orc Shop that will corner the market on Dmg Bonus vs Elf items! Orcs are going to make the Sword Coast Great again :!: :lol: :twisted:

Re: Elf Shop Items That Matter

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 6:31 pm
by Kagger911
Bad Omens wrote:Well, I am looking forward to the Orc Shop that will corner the market on Dmg Bonus vs Elf items! Orcs are going to make the Sword Coast Great again :!: :lol: :twisted:
#orclivesmatter

Re: Elf Shop Items That Matter

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 6:31 pm
by Kagger911
hksturbo wrote:So drow are allowed to shop there ?Surfacers shop at mist lake so as long as it's ooc we can shop there ?
Shekels travels to the Underdark as well.

Re: Elf Shop Items That Matter

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 6:34 pm
by Kagger911
Tantive wrote:The difference is that the Epic shop in Hell at the time was the sole place for purchasing better epic items. And that favored one alignment specificly that would have no issue going there. Even if bought from merchants, why would you give money to a trader who consorts with fiends on a daily basis for coin?
How would you know he consorts with devils? That is unless you're metagaming.

Re: Elf Shop Items That Matter

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 6:44 pm
by Randall
Holy hells. Items are quite.. different than when I used to play.. if these are available in shops.

Re: Elf Shop Items That Matter

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 6:47 pm
by Steve
Unless I missed that DM Rumors post, or there was an unrecorded Event, I think every Player that has gone the Hell Merchant, metagamed his existence.

Going to the Hells in general is very metagamey, and return visits being even more so.

Re: Elf Shop Items That Matter

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:43 pm
by Kagger911
Steve wrote:Unless I missed that DM Rumors post, or there was an unrecorded Event, I think every Player that has gone the Hell Merchant, metagamed his existence.

Going to the Hells in general is very metagamey, and return visits being even more so.
Not when you're able to actually go back and forth since they fixed the quests. Have you been down there recently?

Re: Elf Shop Items That Matter

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:50 pm
by Kagger911
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Re: Elf Shop Items That Matter

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:02 pm
by 7threalm
Randall wrote:Holy hells. Items are quite.. different than when I used to play.. if these are available in shops.
yes gold is worth something now :)

but I did just spend 10k on chickens,

Re: Elf Shop Items That Matter

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:35 pm
by professiondude
Steve wrote:Unless I missed that DM Rumors post, or there was an unrecorded Event, I think every Player that has gone the Hell Merchant, metagamed his existence.

Going to the Hells in general is very metagamey, and return visits being even more so.

psh there is nothing wrong with visiting hell, buying things from a demon, then killing yourself to teleport back to the gate. :D

Re: Elf Shop Items That Matter

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:02 pm
by Kagger911
professiondude wrote:
Steve wrote:Unless I missed that DM Rumors post, or there was an unrecorded Event, I think every Player that has gone the Hell Merchant, metagamed his existence.

Going to the Hells in general is very metagamey, and return visits being even more so.

psh there is nothing wrong with visiting hell, buying things from a demon, then killing yourself to teleport back to the gate. :D
Why metagame that when you can take the quest from Bae'l, Kill the Baron, then use the portal to go back to the surface. Seriously, it's like none of you even go there.

Re: Elf Shop Items That Matter

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:15 pm
by Celduil
Randall wrote:Holy hells. Items are quite.. different than when I used to play.. if these are available in shops.
I know right. All of my hard-earned RP reward items are junk compared to the things available these days. :?

Re: Elf Shop Items That Matter

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:07 am
by professiondude
Kagger911 wrote:
professiondude wrote:
Steve wrote:Unless I missed that DM Rumors post, or there was an unrecorded Event, I think every Player that has gone the Hell Merchant, metagamed his existence.

Going to the Hells in general is very metagamey, and return visits being even more so.

psh there is nothing wrong with visiting hell, buying things from a demon, then killing yourself to teleport back to the gate. :D
Why metagame that when you can take the quest from Bae'l, Kill the Baron, then use the portal to go back to the surface. Seriously, it's like none of you even go there.
Rather than Metagame, i just buy from Shekels. :D

Re: Elf Shop Items That Matter

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:06 am
by Kagger911
professiondude wrote:


Rather than Metagame, i just buy from Shekels. :D

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Tears of joy.

Re: Elf Shop Items That Matter

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:15 am
by Steve
No, I have yet to see the Avernus map(s) and have no Toon that has shopped at the Epic Merchant.

The whole Hell/Epic Merchant is, in my humble opinion, ruining plausibility and playability of RP and "epic-ness" of our Characters.

I mean, even M3nt said, and I paraphrase: "Just cast Ethereal and tiptoe through hell to get to the merchant, if you want." :| Total OOC everything.

Literally, a merchant CONSTANTLY AVAILABLE in the Hells with CONSTANTLY AND UNLIMITED wares is such OOC business that in the end, contributes to a cheaper experience of RP on this Server.

And, that any Character(s) taking the H-Train regularly in order to subvert the reality and RP of going TO THE FRICKIN' HELLZ, is part of a meta-aspect of Role-play.

And I as a Player would be embarrassed contribute to this, by doing it, without DM or Campaign storyline setup.