Baldur's Gate : The Sword Coast Chronicles : NWN2 Persistent World

Deathgrowl wrote:Conspiracy theories like these are best addressed to the Admins and HDMs.

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Out of curiosity, is it a rule that you can't talk while stealthed / hipsed? I know it was on an old server of mine, but I don't see the same rule here...

I think, as I mentioned before, it is covered under godmodding. Since, you are RPing that you can be stealthy but still speak and somehow not be located by your audience. In the same vein that you could be sliced in half by a sword, but somehow not die.

What would cover throwing your voice to make it sound like you're somewhere else? Bluff? Perform?

There are too many variables to consider alternatives to the default behavior of the game on this regard.

Aspect of Sorrow wrote:There are too many variables to consider alternatives to the default behavior of the game on this regard.

seems simple to be. talk or gesture and you drop stealth. oh... and it makes sense too.. double simple

aaron22 wrote:

Aspect of Sorrow wrote:There are too many variables to consider alternatives to the default behavior of the game on this regard.

seems simple to be. talk or gesture and you drop stealth. oh... and it makes sense too.. double simple

And if you were gesturing in a way that merely describes the method with which you sneak, or you preparing to stab something?

Players clattering around in metal boots on stone floors in small corridors should do the same if we go down this route.

Aspect of Sorrow wrote:Players clattering around in metal boots on stone floors in small corridors should do the same if we go down this route.

Eye patches, blindfolds, helms, hoods... peripheral vision... sounds like a nightmare to code all the variables.

Hoihe wrote:

aaron22 wrote:

Aspect of Sorrow wrote:There are too many variables to consider alternatives to the default behavior of the game on this regard.

seems simple to be. talk or gesture and you drop stealth. oh... and it makes sense too.. double simple

And if you were gesturing in a way that merely describes the method with which you sneak, or you preparing to stab something?

Har! I suspect if stealth dropped when typing, you'd learn to just not emote such things, no? I doubt people will go running to the admins demanding justice because they can no longer see everybody's sweet emotes about how they slip through the shadows, then how they wield their blade with a cold look in their eye (which only maxed out detectors could see in the first place), then how raise their poison coated, adamantine dagger high for a strike, etc etc.

*Edit* So what is the official word on chatting it up while stealthed? Does the staff actually consider this to be godmoding? If so, I agree that there is no need to script anything. But it might be a good idea to specifically mention such behavior under the rules which cover said activities.

Aspect of Sorrow wrote:Players clattering around in metal boots on stone floors in small corridors should do the same if we go down this route.

I'm not sure how that is analagous as its only relevant when someone is trying to move silently, and its already accounted mechanically for in the armour check penalty.

I'm very much in favour of talking breaking move silently. I mean you are literally not being silent if you talk or even whisper.

But if you talk you already give away your position. Other's can't target you, but they can target your area if they want. And with some listen skill you can RP knowing who the char is (unless name disguised or something).

*fakes emoting in order to bypass the poor script*

Antyhing typed would have to disable steakth.

There is no reason for a mechanical 'fix' in my opinion. There are too many possibilities that script could not account for. Emotes are one example, so is whispering since I can see a scenario where you are hiding up a hill from a group of Orcs (or adventurers). You whisper and use hand signals to convey the plan to your teammates, but you remain hidden from the Orcs.

In addition, just because you hear someone speak doesn't mean you can hear their movements or see exactly where they are. The words over their head give you the location they were in when they spoke and can be acted on accordingly.

chad878262 wrote:The words over their head give you the location they were in when they spoke ...

Tell that to blind people.