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Re: Half-dwarves as a dwarven subrace

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:55 am
by athornforyourheart
On behalf of the media team - a request was submitted for some more gruff looking dwarven faces. We are currently in production with this work request.

sample wip (still needs some tidying, like those lips)

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I know this doesn't solve the half dwarf issue you are discussing but hopefully dwarf lovers, in general, can feel the love.

Re: Half-dwarves as a dwarven subrace

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:25 am
by burbles
Yes, please. Add half-dwarves as a killable monster race.
Seriously, I don't see how this atrocity will help decent dwarves out there. As if half-elves weren't bad enough... Half-halfling sounds fun though. And last time I checked, dwarven models vere limited, of course, but not as much as poor genasi.

Re: Half-dwarves as a dwarven subrace

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:54 am
by Thorsson
burbles wrote:Half-halfling sounds fun though.
Would that be a Quarterling, or possibly a Three-Quarterling?

Re: Half-dwarves as a dwarven subrace

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:25 am
by NegInfinity
Thorsson wrote:
burbles wrote:Half-halfling sounds fun though.
Would that be a Quarterling, or possibly a Three-Quarterling?
A quarterling is a halfling under effect of "reduce person" spell.

So it is a three-quarterling.

Re: Half-dwarves as a dwarven subrace

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:17 pm
by AlwaysSummer Day
athornforyourheart wrote:On behalf of the media team - a request was submitted for some more gruff looking dwarven faces. We are currently in production with this work request.

sample wip (still needs some tidying, like those lips)

Image

Image

I know this doesn't solve the half dwarf issue you are discussing but hopefully dwarf lovers, in general, can feel the love.
Great, gold dwarves will have like 4 face options now.... sorry, I know you are trying but there is a lot more to be done. Enable the custom beards for gold dwarves, remove favored enemy dwarf from all the giants on the server, and fix Gruff for Battleragers for instance.

Re: Half-dwarves as a dwarven subrace

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:31 pm
by Thorsson
AlwaysSummer Day wrote:...remove favored enemy dwarf from all the giants on the server...
I didn't realise that was the case, but there is a logic to it. Surely if Dwarves get an AC bonus against Giants due to their familiarity in fighting them, the Giants ought to also have some reciprocal enhancement against Dwarves?

Re: Half-dwarves as a dwarven subrace

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:52 pm
by Deathgrowl
Please no. If they aren't by lore an actual subrace, they aren't a subrace. They're shield dwarves, gold dwarves or duergar.

Re: Half-dwarves as a dwarven subrace

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:27 pm
by Sun Wukong
Deathgrowl wrote:Please no. If they aren't by lore an actual subrace, they aren't a subrace. They're shield dwarves, gold dwarves or duergar.
And just the top end of the dwarven height scale in NWN2.

Re: Half-dwarves as a dwarven subrace

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 6:19 pm
by AlwaysSummer Day
Thorsson wrote:
AlwaysSummer Day wrote:...remove favored enemy dwarf from all the giants on the server...
I didn't realise that was the case, but there is a logic to it. Surely if Dwarves get an AC bonus against Giants due to their familiarity in fighting them, the Giants ought to also have some reciprocal enhancement against Dwarves?
They get a bonus called "Battle Training" suggesting they train specifically to fight giants. Giants do not do this in lore or pnp. They get get extra DPS against dwarves on the server because the powers that be like it that way.
Deathgrowl wrote:Please no. If they aren't by lore an actual subrace, they aren't a subrace. They're shield dwarves, gold dwarves or duergar.
That's the catch 22. They aren't a subrace so they must not be added. They aren't on your character sheet therefor you cannot play them. Yes you can request permission to play with this heritage but honestly since the rules were altered to make my character break them ex post facto I wouldn't bother. It's the only thing on this server that requires special permissions yet has no actual benefit. Nobody has to ask for rashemi or bedine heritage. Nobody has to ask to be half Moon elf. Nobody has to ask to be a fey pact warlock. Half dwarf though? NOPE. Too much snowflake. We will need the DM's to decide if you can play something despite it not really affecting anything.

Re: Half-dwarves as a dwarven subrace

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 6:21 pm
by kleomenes
I can't see why it would be a play what is on your sheet issue. Its not a sheet issue, if you play a half-dwarf. You are just a dwarf as per the rules. Just with different heritage (and a maxed height slider!)

Re: Half-dwarves as a dwarven subrace

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:06 pm
by AlwaysSummer Day
kleomenes wrote:I can't see why it would be a play what is on your sheet issue. Its not a sheet issue, if you play a half-dwarf. You are just a dwarf as per the rules. Just with different heritage (and a maxed height slider!)
Yes I agree. Sadly they do not. You must get permission from DM's.