Alternative to NoXp/NoLoot script wall.

[NegInfinity]

Go and actually try to make a positive difference,

Has been trying that for a few years now. Seems to have been a total waste of time so far, as it resulted in nothing.

Also, your problem, Steve, is that you've never interacted with any of my characters in the game. Their impact has been positive. People had fun and enjoyed experience. If you haven't been there to witness it... well, that's not my problem.

[Valefort]

@Neg, so far the only argument against the noxp/noloot script wall that made any sense to me was that you wanted to earn a bit of exp and loot while out on the surface for legit reasons. It's common sense, it should give some.

Now is that a lot of exp and loot ? No, unless you were often on the surface so this argument is negligible (and it's possible to let some leeway like 1k exp and 3-4 chests per reset). Do the pros of the script wall outweigh the cons ? I'd say so : on paper underdark players have less reasons to stay on the surface for long. Time will tell if that measure is effective or not, if not then the wall should be removed. I suggest asking the DMs about this topic in a couple of months before clamoring for its removal without any tangible arguments but lots of negativity. In the meantime at most you would miss a few thousand exp points and a bunch of chests, not exactly dramatic.

Oh also about your despair : some of your suggestions were taken into account and added, you know ? You made so many that counting would be difficult but sometimes you've got good ideas, not always. Like everyone

[Steve]

Has been trying that for a few years now. Seems to have been a total waste of time so far, as it resulted in nothing.

Also, your problem, Steve, is that you've never interacted with any of my characters in the game. Their impact has been positive. People had fun and enjoyed experience. If you haven't been there to witness it... well, that's not my problem.

C'mon Negs! If you are judging your efforts on the "results," and worse, if you come with preconceived results for a "positive" judgement, you are bound to be disappointed! That is the whole point of my "witty" text, man! It is YOU that perceive it being a waste, and thus, a waste it will be.

Again, to say as simply as possible: do what you like to do, in this game. For your own enjoyment. If you don't enjoy it, than don't do it. So bloody simple!

I might be some special weirdo, but NOT a special weirdo that enjoys failure. So it is absolutely NOT that I'm saying "enjoy the failure of your actions." Trust me, there ARE a lot of failures of actions on BG. But those "failures" come from expectations, many unrealistic, and some simply out-of-place for this sandbox.

Now, sometimes, expectations grow out of what seem like offers or "promises" from one corner or another of the Server. Yet, maybe the key here is to maintain a healthy speculative relation to those things. So you don't get burned, essentially.

Maybe if you clearly laid out what the results are that you wish to enact, you could have been told way back when it was impossible. Or, better yet, you laid out those desires results NOW, and see if there is any way Others can help you out.

Because seriously Negs, this isn't a game environment for the One Man Band. You NEED teamwork, both OOC and IC. If you are not working with other Players and DMs to get your "results" manifested, then I have nothing to tell you other than it will fail. Sorry dude, but I would assume you could see this for yourself.

Now, as for "my problem," I for one don't have a problem with not having RP'd with your Characters. As well, I don't have a problem with not NOT RPing with your Characters, and if you want to roll-up a Character that can run with the few Characters I'm investing in, or the Guilds (along with other Players), you are welcome.

Especially so, if you think your RP in the past has been positive, and others have had fun and enjoyed the experience. Even that you write the latter, it is kinda contradicting the former of the quote of you above, because if you're making positive RP and others are enjoying that experience...do you really, really, really thing you've been wasting your time for years?!!?

It's up to you, Negs, to become PosInfinity.