Returning Player from Years Back Need a Beginning Build

[Theodore01]

or probably not

[qwertyh88]

This is my fixed monk build.

Please take a look at now to make sure I am not using dumb feats that don't work and I'm open to suggestions.


http://nwn2db.com/builder/?id=289650


Okay this is my Bard Appraiser Skill Monkey build.

http://nwn2db.com/build/?289654

I went 24 Bard/3Rogue/3 Cleric instead.

Took the rogue because I wanted to pick locks and disable traps. Let me know if any of the above can be improved upon, especially the order that I am picking up these feats or classes or taking feats that can be readily purchased from NPC items, etc..

Thanks for the help!

[Sun Wukong]

I think you need to swap the last monk and fighter levels in order for the Intuitive Attack feat to work on this server. Also, I would get Steadfast Determination instead of Power Critical and Great Fortitude. Your base saves are highish, so it helps not to automatically fail on a roll of one.

As for the Bard, I think you might have to swap the Epic SKill Focus feats into Great Strength. This server does not have Melodic Casting, thus Extend Spell can be a very good pick, but I would feel more inclined to get Northlander Hewing. I would also lower constitution to raise strength even higher. Constitution of 9 or 11 should be enough.

[qwertyh88]

For Monk. I have moved the last monk level to lvl 26 and rest being fighter.

My understanding of Steadfast determination is that it is bugged. It also prevents a 1 for will save to auto fail. I guess that's a great thing.

The only thing that keeps me not wanting to have it is the investment into toughness which I can get the feat easily enough from items. I have to think about this.

As a side note, does the monk speed bonus get bugged easily? My monk has ten lvl in monk and I don't notice a difference? Should there be an icon near you pic that shows you have movement bonus??

For the Bard, without Melodic Casting, should I invest in Concentration? I would like not to put points into that if I can...

[Theodore01]

For the monk you want fiery fist. (It stacks with blazing aura.)

Bard:
On this server there are only these Epic Skill Focus: Heal, Diplomacy, Intimidate and Survival !
PCaster at lv3 and get extend.

[qwertyh88]

For Bard, I replaced the epic skill focus with + strengths. I moved PC to lvl 6, lvl 3 is too early when bard is only casting lvl 1 spells. Got extend spell. Replaced Silver palm with Thug.
Dropped Constitution to 11 and increased strength to 15.

For Monk, I am not sure which feat should be given up for Fiery Fist. If I replace power critical and great fortitude with toughness & steadfast determination, I suppose the only feat I am considering to give up is blindflight.

Are there items that gives blindfight that is readily purchasable? Or maybe some item that gives fiery fist?

Also, does deflection bonus from spells stacks with deflection from items? I remember something about it stacking.

[Theodore01]

For Monk, I am not sure which feat should be given up for Fiery Fist.
- You can drop a weapon focus. AB 40+ is more than enough for a monk.

Are there items that gives blindfight that is readily purchasable? Or maybe some item that gives fiery fist?
- NO

[Sun Wukong]

I guess you could drop the Stealthy feat on the monk.

[qwertyh88]

Stealthy is Ki Step. I find it invaluable to kill big bosses before they get off their spells.

I am thinking of dropping fighter to 4 levels stopping at weapon mastery and adding in 6 levels of divine champion so I can really get more mileage off steadfast determination.

[Theodore01]

If you take steadfast - try to take it earlier.
To get more off steadfast you want more CON.

You can use your Constitution modifier in place of your Wisdom modifier on Will saves. You do not automatically fail Fortitude saves on a roll of natural 1.

And FOF AC Bonus is also based on Con.

While unarmored, you gain a bonus to your dodge Armor Class equal to your Constitution bonus (if any). Only your base Constitution is used for this bonus (spell/item enhancements are not used).

[Sun Wukong]

Stealthy is Ki Step. I find it invaluable to kill big bosses before they get off their spells.

I am thinking of dropping fighter to 4 levels stopping at weapon mastery and adding in 6 levels of divine champion so I can really get more mileage off steadfast determination.

Now you just have to adjust your character's leveling order. 2/3 or your levels needs to be monk at all times. Now there are levels during which your intuitive attack will stop working.

[qwertyh88]

If you were looking at my earlier builds, I have updated it.

FOF does not work with the extra feats needed.

DC brings more Saves to the table. If I went 3 FOF and 7 fighter for example, the saves are 25/20/17 versus 27/21/20 with 4 fighter 6 DC.
The extras saves from Steadfast Determination would not make up the shortfall. Not to mention the other saves..

My final build will be 20monk/4fighter/6divine champion, where I traded +3 AB for +3 Saves and Two extra Feats which allowed me to have Fiery Hands & an extra + Wisdom for a total of 29 Wisdom.

The last + Wisdom can be replaced with +2 SR if I can get my hands on a +4 wisdom item.
32 SR = Free Cloak of Shimmering which is quite nice.

Thanks all!

[ozmiz]

Warlock... nothing easier or more forgiving to new players.

Basically, you could just go for something like a constitution based 'Fey-lock' 30 build...

You get as high constitution as possible, then you get the following feats:
1) Fey Heritage
3) Toughness
6) Steadfast Determination
9) Fey Skin
12) Fey Presence
15) Fey Power
18) Fey Legacy
21) Eldritch Master
23) Fast Healing I, Fast Healing II (Requires 22 constitution)
25) Fast Healing II (Requires 23 Constitution)
26) Epic Eldritch Blast I
27) Epic Eldritch Blast II
29) Epic Eldritch Blast III, Epic Eldritch Blast IV

You got a ton of HP, you can blast all day an night, you got innate DR, and constant Regeneration...
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That sounds like a fun build. How would you allocate the initial stats, and what race would you recommend?
I would like to play around with this in a module to see how it would work.

[Sun Wukong]

Any race without racial constitution penalty should work just fine. As a human, I would start with 18 constitution and get at least 14 in dexterity. Other than that, it doesn't really matter.

Warlock is one of the rare classes that work even with only 8 in all ability scores.

[qwertyh88]

How does a daggerspell mage work with fey-lock? I am not exacty sure how daggerspell mage works...