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Re: Monthly 100% RCR
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:19 pm
by Scorpius
Ive been on the server for about 5 years
And yes about twice a year it does happen already
Re: Monthly 100% RCR
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:27 pm
by Tanlaus
Scorpius wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:19 pm
Ive been on the server for about 5 years
And yes about twice a year it does happen already
Ok... when in the last year has there been a 100% RCR?
Re: Monthly 100% RCR
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:26 pm
by Scorpius
last 100% was in november 2018... wich is end 2018 so pretty much 2019 to me wich is also close to Xmass I as said earlier right ?
are we really picky for 1 month here ? ok that said
we are end april.. so lets say we are mai
that makes 5 months we are in 2020 right
so it has been a bit more then 1 year without rcr
are your built that scrapped out ?
still
viewtopic.php?p=686995
in 2016 was implemented a 100 % refound for lv 10 and less... and the grid goes like that
As of today, the RCR mechanics have changed. It now offers diminishing returns as you get closer to level 20.
Level 1-10 characters will receive 100% of their experience back!
11 = 95%
12 = 90%
13 = 85%
14 = 80%
15 = 75%
16 = 70%
17 = 65%
18 = 60%
19 = 55%
20 = 50%
The admins and HDMs will now be distributing 100% RCR tokens to those people who have LEGITIMATELY BROKEN feats and abilities that are egregious enough to warrant the need. These will be distributed on a per-case basis and not based on a set of specific criteria.
lv 20 to 30 is still 50 %
wich is more generous then it ever was
just saying... it used to be 50 % no mater what... even if you cry
I`m totally against such 100% rcr
first reason
this put too much job on dms
simple reason if you take same name as before your rcr it does make a conflict... then the dm must delete any name files under your character name or if you do it right then you put another name but hey guess what.. the person want to get back his old name because of rp reason.. so the dm goes changing the name manually. (2 ways... 2 problems still that dms must deal with instead of doing RP and events with people) not wise
second reason
100% rcr allows jackass, trolls, whatever you want to call them, to be refound all exp... so they can do like in other games where you got that problem of people being clowns around... then change name when the sauce gets hot
third reason
not everyone is a legit player... meta gaming happens... strange fact is you take a character... 100% rcr happened... then a nobody comes to you and is aware of lots of details... guess who that nobody was ? ... race changed, class changed... name changed but.. still at the head or the right hand of a guild or something... this is breaking the RP... but people dont care
do I have to continue ?
I can give other reasons if you need...
at least with the actual rule of rcr that make the person think..."hey does it worth losing those 10 lvs ?"
people think twice before doing it.
Re: Monthly 100% RCR
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:14 pm
by qwertyh88
I don't want to get into the reasons of why or why not for 100% RCR too much..
Re: Monthly 100% RCR
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:21 pm
by Tanlaus
Scorpius wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:26 pm
last 100% was in november 2018... wich is end 2018 so pretty much 2019 to me wich is also close to Xmass I as said earlier right ?
are we really picky for 1 month here ? ok that said
we are end april.. so lets say we are mai
that makes 5 months we are in 2020 right
so it has been a bit more then 1 year without rcr
are your built that scrapped out ?
still
viewtopic.php?p=686995
in 2016 was implemented a 100 % refound for lv 10 and less... and the grid goes like that
As of today, the RCR mechanics have changed. It now offers diminishing returns as you get closer to level 20.
Level 1-10 characters will receive 100% of their experience back!
11 = 95%
12 = 90%
13 = 85%
14 = 80%
15 = 75%
16 = 70%
17 = 65%
18 = 60%
19 = 55%
20 = 50%
The admins and HDMs will now be distributing 100% RCR tokens to those people who have LEGITIMATELY BROKEN feats and abilities that are egregious enough to warrant the need. These will be distributed on a per-case basis and not based on a set of specific criteria.
lv 20 to 30 is still 50 %
wich is more generous then it ever was
just saying... it used to be 50 % no mater what... even if you cry
I`m totally against such 100% rcr
first reason
this put too much job on dms
simple reason if you take same name as before your rcr it does make a conflict... then the dm must delete any name files under your character name or if you do it right then you put another name but hey guess what.. the person want to get back his old name because of rp reason.. so the dm goes changing the name manually. (2 ways... 2 problems still that dms must deal with instead of doing RP and events with people) not wise
second reason
100% rcr allows jackass, trolls, whatever you want to call them, to be refound all exp... so they can do like in other games where you got that problem of people being clowns around... then change name when the sauce gets hot
third reason
not everyone is a legit player... meta gaming happens... strange fact is you take a character... 100% rcr happened... then a nobody comes to you and is aware of lots of details... guess who that nobody was ? ... race changed, class changed... name changed but.. still at the head or the right hand of a guild or something... this is breaking the RP... but people dont care
do I have to continue ?
I can give other reasons if you need...
at least with the actual rule of rcr that make the person think..."hey does it worth losing those 10 lvs ?"
people think twice before doing it.
I am neither for not against a 100% RCR. I don’t care.
I’m just saying your statement about 100% RCR every 6 months is factually incorrect.
Re: Monthly 100% RCR
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:48 pm
by Scorpius
Factually
If something happens for 4 years then
1 year it doesn't
Itnis correct to say that this is something thatbis "usually" happening
As this last year was the exception
So im correct
Re: Monthly 100% RCR
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:00 pm
by chad878262
To be fair the admins said back in 2018 it likely wouldn't happen again for a while.... pretty sure Zann-boy or Miasmata recently said they'd look at 100 rcr only after the server split its done and stable. 100 RCR was never meant to be a standard thing. It was done because of major changes to classes and server mechanics between 2016-2018.
Re: Monthly 100% RCR
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:16 am
by cosmic ray
I have played here for years and 100% RCR every six months has never been policy. There may have been a time when 100% periods brought on by deep mechanical changes happened to be separated by about six months, but it is definitely not true that such a thing has ever been a consistent policy for its own sake.
Re: Monthly 100% RCR
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:05 am
by abousalif
Steve wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:08 pm
...
Now that I say that, it would be a helpful Tool, that RCR NPC, if it only allowed for Feat changes, NOT Class/Prc/Ability changes.
I am 100% with this idea
Re: Monthly 100% RCR
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:40 am
by Druchii
abousalif wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:05 am
Steve wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:08 pm
...
Now that I say that, it would be a helpful Tool, that RCR NPC, if it only allowed for Feat changes, NOT Class/Prc/Ability changes.
I am 100% with this idea
100% against if your suggestion is to remove the rework system in favour of JUST making the NPC a feat-swapper - the RCR tool saved me as a noob from making critical class mistakes that made a build totally unviable because of my own mistake in assuming certain things worked the same between NWN1 and NWN2.
I freely admit levelling on BG is one of the easier servers I've played on, but it was very nice to be able to just convert to another class and enjoy my character with a minimal breach in roleplay.
Not to mention some people like to not start from scratch with alts when another PC dies - so they harvest the xp and put it into someone new. That would not be possible either if you locked it down to just changing feats.
Lastly, can you even script that? I did not think you could just swaps feats yet script a class restriction.
Re: Monthly 100% RCR
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:23 pm
by Ahku
Hello all,
Can we get put on a mailing list or something that lets us know when the RCR is 100%?
I have quite a few characters that were messed up after a RCR that i would like to fix, so for now they are in limbo...NOT BEING PLAYED.
joy.
Re: Monthly 100% RCR
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:01 am
by lum
Dang. I've got just one toon who needs one or two skills redone. I wait so long!
But to go from 460.000-500.000xp back to level 20 for it... I just can't. No.
If it at least would be -50% and not the maximum level 20 restriction, I could live with ending back at level 23 or so.
Re: Monthly 100% RCR
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:04 am
by Deragnost
lum wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:01 am
-50% and not the maximum level 20 restriction, I could live with ending back at level 23 or so.
I suppose this would be a good compromise, but it won't happen.
As a general rule, from my point of view, writing complaints or suggestions here won't solve anything. If you want be helpful you pass a good proposition to Admin / DM Team / whatever, because suggestions are always welcome I believe. Otherwise, it's just spam.
Re: Monthly 100% RCR
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:02 pm
by chad878262
would require more moderation of character building if they wanted to keep 3b20 rule. I forget if there was a script to check for illegal characters, but it's kind of tough as you would have to look at feats, skill splits etc. allowing you to RCR to 23 would for example allow character to build with taking all divine champion levels after level 20 for more feats.
Re: Monthly 100% RCR
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:26 pm
by Deragnost
chad878262 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:02 pm
would require more moderation of character building if they wanted to keep 3b20 rule. I forget if there was a script to check for illegal characters, but it's kind of tough as you would have to look at feats, skill splits etc. allowing you to RCR to 23 would for example allow character to build with taking all divine champion levels after level 20 for more feats.
I can tell you that it doesn't work that way; there's a script that checks actively if you take 3 levels of one class within the first 20 levels.