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Re: Coming Soon: Domains Rework and New Domains (Split 1.2)
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:31 am
by Kalgain
Sweet, so excited to see the details. Looking forward to seeing options for clerics other than the Bruce Lee builds.
Re: Coming Soon: Domains Rework and New Domains (Split 1.2)
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:12 am
by Steve
Are there going to be any new Deities with Exotic Favored Weapons and the War domain?
Re: Coming Soon: Domains Rework and New Domains (Split 1.2)
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:42 am
by Rhifox
Steve wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:12 am
Are there going to be any new Deities with Exotic Favored Weapons and the War domain?
War domain only gives Martial Weapon proficiency and Weapon Focus if the god's favored weapon is a martial one.
To answer the question, I don't know off hand.
Re: Coming Soon: Domains Rework and New Domains (Split 1.2)
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:46 am
by mrm3ntalist
Steve wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:12 am
Are there going to be any new Deities with Exotic Favored Weapons and the War domain?
To take it one step further, what about new Deites with exotic favored weapons and the war domain and the water domain?
My mind is blown
Re: Coming Soon: Domains Rework and New Domains (Split 1.2)
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:58 am
by Rhifox
mrm3ntalist wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:46 am
Steve wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:12 am
Are there going to be any new Deities with Exotic Favored Weapons and the War domain?
To take it one step further, what about new Deites with exotic favored weapons and the war domain and the water domain?

There are no War domain deities with exotic weapons.
There are no War domain deities that also have Water domain. The closest is Valkur, but he has Ocean, not Water.
Re: Coming Soon: Domains Rework and New Domains (Split 1.2)
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 8:17 am
by Steve
Rhifox wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:58 am
There are no War domain deities with exotic weapons.
Helm has War Domain, and his favored weapon is the Bastard Sword, thus when taking the War Domain, the PC also is granted Exotic Weapon Proficiency.
So, any "new" Deity with Bastard/Katana/Kama/Shuriken AND War Domain in their Portfolio, would also by Engine Default get the Exotic Weapon Prof.
Re: Coming Soon: Domains Rework and New Domains (Split 1.2)
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 8:20 am
by Rhifox
Steve wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 8:17 am
Rhifox wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:58 am
There are no War domain deities with exotic weapons.
Helm has War Domain, and his favored weapon is the Bastard Sword, thus when taking the War Domain, the PC also is granted Exotic Weapon Proficiency.
So, any "new" Deity with Bastard/Katana/Kama/Shuriken AND War Domain in their Portfolio, would also by Engine Default get the Exotic Weapon Prof.
... why did BG give Helm War?
Anyway, none of the new ones have Exotic weapons.
Re: Coming Soon: Domains Rework and New Domains (Split 1.2)
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:17 am
by The Whistler
Now that we're getting an expanded domain list, we can start considering limiting deities to their canonical domains.
Re: Coming Soon: Domains Rework and New Domains (Split 1.2)
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:27 am
by Rhifox
The Whistler wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:17 am
Now that we're getting an expanded domain list, we can start considering limiting deities to their canonical domains.
Question is how that would go over with players.
What say you, players?
Re: Coming Soon: Domains Rework and New Domains (Split 1.2)
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:47 am
by izzul
Rhifox wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:27 am
The Whistler wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:17 am
Now that we're getting an expanded domain list, we can start considering limiting deities to their canonical domains.
Question is how that would go over with players.
What say you, players?
all the previous domains already follow strict rules, we need to check one by one these newly added domains.
Re: Coming Soon: Domains Rework and New Domains (Split 1.2)
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:53 am
by Xorena
Rhifox wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:27 am
The Whistler wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:17 am
Now that we're getting an expanded domain list, we can start considering limiting deities to their canonical domains.
Question is how that would go over with players.
What say you, players?
Which ones receive domains outside of canon?
It sounds like Torm for one. I see Torm has war in 5e. EDIT: reading comprehension
Re: Coming Soon: Domains Rework and New Domains (Split 1.2)
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:06 am
by Steve
Rhifox wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 8:20 am
... why did BG give Helm War?
Anyway, none of the new ones have Exotic weapons.
Helm has War as a minor Sphere of Influence in 2e. And I'll go further to assume another person like me was thinking of a Character that could be a Holy Warrior using a Bastard or Katana, and just how lovely it would be from a builder perspective to get Exotic Weapon Proficiency for free.

Re: Coming Soon: Domains Rework and New Domains (Split 1.2)
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:54 am
by Ravial
Rhifox wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:17 am
And add Zariel instead (since she's apparently still lord of the first atm).
She is not. The Reckoning happened a long time ago and Bel is in the gist of things. He was still the ruler of Avernus in 1347 DR, as per the Cloak and Dagger sourcebook.
Re: Coming Soon: Domains Rework and New Domains (Split 1.2)
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:17 pm
by Rhifox
Ravial wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:54 am
Rhifox wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:17 am
And add Zariel instead (since she's apparently still lord of the first atm).
She is not. The Reckoning happened a long time ago and Bel is in the gist of things. He was still the ruler of Avernus in 1347 DR, as per the Cloak and Dagger sourcebook.
*Ugh*
The lore is so contradictory on these things. Some sources say Zariel only even became a devil in 1354, and was immediately put in charge of Avernus, and that the Reckoning happens later.
The lore I found says: Tiamat was ruler of Avernus until 1346 when she became a demigod. Then Zariel became a devil in 1354, and Asmodeus put her in charge of Avernus until Bel betrayed her, and Bel was Lord of the First by 1372. Some things I'm reading on the Candlekeep forums place the Reckoning at 1370 DR.
You're sure it should be Bel right now?
It's so confusing.
Edit: Pushed the question to the DM team for clarification.
Re: Coming Soon: Domains Rework and New Domains (Split 1.2)
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:22 pm
by Planehopper
The wiki has the references used to support the 1354 date.