A Final Post from DM_Creo

[DM Creo]

At one time I believed very strongly in the code. Unfortunately The Code of Conduct becomes a farce when it is not universally applied.

Let's not go down the road of arguing though. that will just get this thread shutdown quick anyway. I would rather we focus on the positive and keep this a happy goodbye post. A lot of people work very hard to keep this community active and running, chief among them are the server admins. Despite anything and everything else I have been witness to how hard and thankless their job is. Everything is done with the best of intentions in mind. It is deserving of our praise and respect.

[Marathados]

Be well!

[K'yon Oblodra]

Gotta say the whole favoritism thing really reeks.

It is asking for baseless accusations.

I mean in a way a DM is constantly favoring some people over others, just by interacting with some players while others are not included trying to draw a line there seems very much impossible.

Maybe you guys should just give out a clear line that would restrict what items can be given out as maximum statwise, but the favoritism thing should just be asked for to be tried to be avoided as much as possible while not being an actual rule.

After all the DMs are actually doing work here and is it not perfectly fine that one tries to work with people one likes? Of course new players need to be involved and in a perfect world we'd need tons of DMs to actually deal with all these players the server has but that is only but another reason to stop this removing of DMs which honestly seems to be a bit too random to me.

Maybe it's a thought to make things more transparent as in letting the DMs know if there is a report being made about them and which incident it is about.

Maybe one could even involve the community to speak on these things not to be the judge but the eyes and witness for the staff?

Also maybe the whole team idea for the DMs is hampered by the lack of equality?

With a just system in place the head DMs could have the say about metaplots but there would be no or less necessity of them having to decide over their fellow DMs.

Now these are just some ideas probably a bit more work involved like this but it might help the atmosphere within the DM team and the community.

[Face]

Personaly i was discusted to hear Creo was about to log in to do a event but could not...
He had to find that out by looking through his pm's on the forums.

Its like they trey broke up with a crazy girl friend by sms over the phoon...

[DM Lobo]

This whole affair was shameful and an utter disgrace. I have kept my mouth shut about this whole affair for over a year now and am so happy the community is able to see / draw their own view on what is going on.

We have an amazing team, a strong community and a awesome team of moders and content creaters.

but our politics are a mess.


When ADMs and even full DMs come to me / us and say things like this:



You know there is a problem. A big problem. The word favortisum is thrown around needlessly like a buzz word; the fact it appeared in both Mal and Creos (and mine) letters shows now little context the word means. Favortisum is defined in such odd words here and it is so vague that litterally everyone on the team can be accused of it, I am serious. That is how watered down and trigger happy that word has become.

There is a deep fear within the team, and it is by no fault of mine, Creos or anyone elses. Moral is low, again - due to things like this, and the community gets stung for it. Of cause you can accuse me of stiring the pot -- but I am not the one who stoked the fire here, and I have no doubt this will not be the first, or the last time we will be going down this road.

Having being on the team twice, and spoken / seen things non of you have. I know what I am talking about. We have many, many kinks that must be ironed out and until they are, cases like this will not go away.

My advice to anyone thinking of joining. Don't be put off by this. In my experience it takes a specific type of mind set to be here - all I can say to you is give it a go, take things slow and *always* check everything you do with the HDM team, bug the hell out of them - check and double check and you should be fine.

[Face]

Many players already spoke over skype that this server may not be for them any more...
Its what you get when you trow good dm's out.

The 'iner circle' on this server needs to start thinking about how they deal with people or they may have no players left in time...

[Wandering_Woodsman]

From what little I know of the situation, I'm honestly believing that some of the storylines, RP potential plotlines, or just overall "hey, can do this!?" type things that would originally be considered, are now very much in question and/or at risk of simply going the way of the dodo bird, kaput.

[Nemni]

It does seem like the more active a DM is, the more likely he/she is to get problems. Witch is a shame. Of course no one will complain about DMs that barely login, so if just the number of complains is a big issue, then clearly it can create the wrong incentives.

But as players we can't really judge because we never really know the full story. I hope everyone keeps that in mind too.

[Glowfire]

Lobo,
I think you should make your own thread to discuss your thoughts about the team and other things you have raised. I've seen some odd blurring of your own PC and DM side behaviour and if you want to discuss that and the reasons for your twice removal, then that would be good for the community to know, I am sure. But in a different thread.

I would rather we focus on the positive and keep this a happy goodbye post.

[Glowfire]

Creo,

I can not myself say I think players should always go before DM conduct. I know I quoted what your wishes with this thread was but I wanted to leave something here to think about.

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If one or a few DM gives higher rewards than is the norm, whether XP, gold or items - then all other DMs will appear stingy. Even if those DMs are actually the one following the Code of Conduct in an exemplary way. I know some DMs want to be nice, because it is a good feeling to make someone happy by giving out something that does not actually cost you anything - at the end of the day, it is just small pixels...

Another good example is the lost bodies and the no XP refunds state. During my spell at DMing I stuck to that rule. Some other DMs didn't. Guess who got tells each time I said "No, I can't do that. Sorry." of all these other 'amazing' DMs who did it. The DMs who do follow the Code of Conduct can easily be made to appear like arses to the playerbase tbh, when some DMs want to be that "good guy".

That said, you were at least upfront about it from the start...

Enough said about that.


Thank you for the time you put into DMing. The most memorable thing I take away from one of your events is when Adelaide prevented Greil from torturing that fiend-blooded humanoid. She was ready to die for her beliefs of what was right - and a big THANK YOU should also be said to all the players of the characters present - because it was amazing RP.

The duel to give the fiend-blooded humanoid a respectful death was also nicely done. Fond memories of Eleanor trying to stand up to Adelaide and Greil tugging Eleanor sleeve telling for them to leave... I'd have done the same in your shoes, TheTwisted21. Especially after seeing how quick that respectful death of the NPC was.

[Zanniej]

I would rather we focus on the positive and keep this a happy goodbye post.

I think this speaks volumes of Creo's character.
Most of us do not know what happened that caused this, nor do I think it is much business of ours. We are all entitled to our opinions, but I think we owe Creo as much (and the others that have said their farewells) to honor what they've done for the community, instead of debating the causes of the current situation.

Let's indeed focus on the positive, and thank Creo for all the effort and input they gave. And though I've not been in many (if any) events of Creo, I do want to thank them for the positive impression they've left with me.

[Ithilan]

Thanks for your efforts Creo, what little interactions I had with you were pretty good. But ive heard plenty of positives of all your efforts for this community, so for what it's worth, thank you.

On a side note, has there ever been a calendar year on BGTSCC that didnt see huge staff rotations and resignations? Accusations of favoritism and similar malarkey?

For all the joy and love I have for a niche community dedicated to a game long dead and buried, it never ceases to amaze me how tainted by drama it is repeatedly. Sorry for the sour ending, that doesn't relate to you Creo.

Good luck with whatever you do from here on.

Peace
Jonas

[Tantive]

It leaves plots with said DM unfinished, resulting in upset players -- plots are rearely taken over (they know this) and the DMs currently on the team working with said DM are left in the dark, and forced to reajust. The whole thing is a shambles.

Having a read on the staff code of conduct I see there's a good amount of emphasis made on the documenting side, assumably precisely for that reason so no one is left in the dark. Just recently a few of us were faced with a situation where much of a storyline recap had to be written down by the players, so another DM (Thanks Boo!) could take the plot over to its conclusion. This is much harder to do, if the DM Team as a whole don't know what has happened.



Thanks Creo for your time as a DM! I've had the pleasure to be part of your storylines perhaps since the Midnight Sun Diamond and the Sembite threat at the Friendly Arms inn last year, to just name one of them. You've also had a great nack for worldbuilding the empty maps, and my sympathies went to you for every servercrash suffered. I have hopes to see you playerside again.

[JCVD1]

It leaves plots with said DM unfinished, resulting in upset players -- plots are rearely taken over (they know this) and the DMs currently on the team working with said DM are left in the dark, and forced to reajust. The whole thing is a shambles.

Having a read on the staff code of conduct I see there's a good amount of emphasis made on the documenting side, assumably precisely for that reason so no one is left in the dark. Just recently a few of us were faced with a situation where much of a storyline recap had to be written down by the players, so another DM (Thanks Boo!) could take the plot over to its conclusion. This is much harder to do, if the DM Team as a whole don't know what has happened.

I've had events taken over by other dms and the majority sucks, doesn,t feel the same and end up not being taken seriously or simply abandoned.

With the depart of the DMs mentioned, A lot of RW plotlines that were worked on are now gone. People from the faction consider a break or simply leaving. Thanks a lot.

[ZestyDragon]

Sorry to see you go DM Creo. BG is a server of rules that ultimately focus's around cookie cutter characters and stories. With players and DMs policing anything that differs to far from that. Rules are suppose to be about ensuring enjoyment for the majority, While i imagine some people complained about Creo it sure as shit ain't the majority. Between Hera, Lobo and Creo it becomes painfully obvious that the only way to not get reprimanded or fired is to never run anything, Or respond to requests. Careful Soulcatcher your the last active one left.

Safe travels Creo i hope you still find enjoyment in the game even if its not here, I imagine there is plenty of places looking for someone who focuses on fun.