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Re: More options for Dm Rewards.

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:56 am
by zan5bar
Did the Whistling Wanderess get awesome Items from me, as well? They got very good items, for the time.
Wait... what?? Other WW members were rewarded by Novus? And all my character ever got was a permadeath! Where is the fairness in that? :shock: :shock: :shock:

Just kidding. The plot was the best roleplay experience on this server I've had so far, and more then enough for a reward.

Re: More options for Dm Rewards.

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 4:04 am
by Steve
zan5bar wrote: And all my character ever got was a permadeath! Where is the fairness in that? :shock: :shock: :shock:
Ha! That's what you get for playing a stolen-background-mind-under-geas-assassin-of-divided-loyalty!!! The WW Crew could have saved Rain, but nooooooo...or, Rain just didn't want to be saved?!? :twisted:

Anyway, you did get Hoihe the Half-Elf. lol. Some kind of reward, I guess....

But wait! There is still a part of Rain's consciousness that lives on within Hoihe/Hoiha, or whatever state of being that being is in. Perhaps it is time for Rain to wake up...and TAKE CONTROL??!! Muahahahaha.

Oh man...you guys are soooo lucky I'm no longer a DM.

:D

Re: More options for Dm Rewards.

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 4:28 am
by Sun Wukong
Valefort wrote:If you want to tackle the problem of grandfathered items (which is so small a problem that admins never felt the need to take action) then a fairer solution is for the DM team to review the items that are floating around and tweak them down for those that are deemed overpowered compared to what's available.
Actually, some grandfathered items were nerfed down, if not outright removed. There were even scripts in place to take some of those away.

Most notable examples were items with magic damage resistance, because on the early days of the server IGM spam by evil sorcerers was a real every day thing, and Paladins needed the magic/10 damage resistance on some rings, etc... And once they got some, others wanted few of those too, which made some of the older arcanist players rather upset about it too, so those rings and amulets had to go...

Oh and can anyone remember the stats of the 'OLD' Gaharu? Ye gods... at the time it was a weapon designed to club gods dead. :lol: It might still be today... :?

Re: More options for Dm Rewards.

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 5:48 am
by Tsidkenu
Comments Only wrote:Most notable examples were items with magic damage resistance, because on the early days of the server IGM spam by evil sorcerers was a real every day thing, and Paladins needed the magic/10 damage resistance on some rings...
These were removed from their old store (Phyldia's magic shop) but not from PCs. I 'have' one. AC81 has one for trade right now on his auction thread. I'm sure a few other old-timers have these floating around still.

And just for the record: when I retire a character, all their equipment goes with them. The ring I have can be effectively marked as removed from the server cuz no-one else is getting it, not even another one of my own characters, even if I cannot truly bring myself to outright delete Aeili from my vault (sentimental reasons).

Re: More options for Dm Rewards.

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:28 am
by Sun Wukong
Well that is unfair... Logging script once a long time ago removed all of mine. :lol: Or was it the same property on some other item? Armor, necklace with natural armor?

Re: More options for Dm Rewards.

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:48 am
by Steve
Magic DR really ain't that great.

Except against IGMS, I guess.

Anyway..continue on!

Re: More options for Dm Rewards.

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:50 am
by Sun Wukong
Steve wrote:Magic DR really ain't that great.

Except against IGMS, I guess.

Anyway..continue on!
'Magic 10/-' is not the same thing as '10/Magic.' ;)

Re: More options for Dm Rewards.

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:02 am
by Steve
Comments Only wrote:
Steve wrote:Magic DR really ain't that great.

Except against IGMS, I guess.

Anyway..continue on!
'Magic 10/-' is not the same thing as '10/Magic.' ;)
Right you are! Lucky paladins....

Re: More options for Dm Rewards.

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:16 am
by Wyatt
I've always been of the opinion that any sort of tangible DM reward from an event should ONLY be from items that are available already on the server. There will always be accusations of favoritism as certain groups may appear to get more DM attention than others but at least if the rewards are limited to, say, epic items from the several epic shops or known items from the current iteration of the loot generator players at least know that they can still achieve the same as other players, if by different means. Also, as the items in the epic shops have presumably all been pre-approved for balance by the QC team, DM's should be limited to that when handing out rewards.