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Re: Coming Soon: Shifter PRC
Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 4:37 pm
by Kalgain
Do the new armor optimization feats apply to shifted forms? Does one-handed feat work? Since dodge armor does not merge, does the dodge feat still work?
Since gloves bonuses merge into the creature weapon, do general bonuses on the weapon, like saving throws or ability enchancements on the weapon slot merge?
Re: Coming Soon: Shifter PRC
Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 5:08 pm
by EasternCheesE
Kalgain wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 4:37 pm
Do the new armor optimization feats apply to shifted forms? Does one-handed feat work? Since dodge armor does not merge, does the dodge feat still work?
Since gloves bonuses merge into the creature weapon, do general bonuses on the weapon, like saving throws or ability enchancements on the weapon slot merge?
Well, not related to shifter, but, from my knowledge:
1) Armor optimisation doesn't work for poly in general since polyd creatures simply don't have armor equipped.
2) Dunno about one-handed.
3) Dodge feat works while shapeshifted.
4) If it's unarmed shape (no sword etc), no weapon bonus is transferred, only gloves do (and only for wildshape).
Re: Coming Soon: Shifter PRC
Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 5:41 pm
by Steve
The One Weapon feat works for shapes that actually use/hold a weapon, for Warlocks using Word of Changing. I don’t think any Shifter forms have weapons, thus it will not work.
Re: Coming Soon: Shifter PRC
Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 7:06 pm
by YYA
Truthiness wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:30 pm
YYA wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:37 am
AB: 25 (BAB with Augment Form)
+ 4 (Greater Heroism)
+ 5 (Tenser's Transformation once the change goes in)
+ 10 (30 Strength with Bull's Strength)
= 44 (Too lazy to go over the spell book, so probably few points higher still)
Tenser's doesn't work in shapechange/polymorph, as stated by the post that announced the change. The only other increase in AB besides Greater Heroism is Haste for another +1 (For a total of 40 AB).
Ah yes, well, give it two to four years and it might.
Re: Coming Soon: Shifter PRC
Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 7:23 pm
by edmaster
20 level prc for the ability to Polymorph into other things…., i wouldn’t get my hopes up that much.
Re: Coming Soon: Shifter PRC
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:18 am
by Terankar
Steve wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 5:41 pm
The One Weapon feat works for shapes that actually use/hold a weapon, for Warlocks using Word of Changing. I don’t think any Shifter forms have weapons, thus it will not work.
Matelener did mention longbow for dryad, heavy mace for ogre magi, pixie shortbow
Re: Coming Soon: Shifter PRC
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:49 am
by Steve
Terankar wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:18 am
Steve wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 5:41 pm
The One Weapon feat works for shapes that actually use/hold a weapon, for Warlocks using Word of Changing. I don’t think any Shifter forms have weapons, thus it will not work.
Matelener did mention longbow for dryad, heavy mace for ogre magi, pixie shortbow
Ah! One Weapon doesn’t work with Ranged Weapons, so then should work with the Ogre Magi, if matelener scripted it in.
Re: Coming Soon: Shifter PRC
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:23 am
by Terankar
How does the dryad shifterlvl /4 magic arrows work?
20 shifter will have added 5 magic dmg to their shots?
Re: Coming Soon: Shifter PRC
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:48 am
by DaloLorn
Terankar wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:23 am
How does the dryad shifterlvl /4 magic arrows work?
20 shifter will have added 5 magic dmg to their shots?
+5 Piercing, if I'm not mistaken. You can see something similar if you buy +1 or +2 arrows from a vendor, or cast the Enchanted Bow spell to create a shortbow which automatically loads +3 arrows.
Re: Coming Soon: Shifter PRC
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:50 am
by Mirage
I'd just like to say to -Stick with what you made and don't pre-nerf it because of two or three people loudly demanding nerfs on the forums.
The class seems like it'll be a lot of fun.
Re: Coming Soon: Shifter PRC
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:58 pm
by Terankar
Is it restricted to 10 levels prior to epic levels?
Re: Coming Soon: Shifter PRC
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:22 pm
by The_Sorting_Hat
I don't think so. Why would it be?
Re: Coming Soon: Shifter PRC
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:33 pm
by edmaster
I do got to ask.., why 20 levels? It seems a bit much for a prc
Re: Coming Soon: Shifter PRC
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:38 pm
by joleda
I'm not on the staff, but my guess is ... Making it have 20 levels limits the ability to have multiples of the following: Dragon Disciple, Frenzied Berserker, Dwarven Defender, high Caster levels, etc.
Re: Coming Soon: Shifter PRC
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:58 pm
by Terankar
Does natural spell actually work for the shifter forms?
The fact it isn't wildshape and natural spell only allows for casting in those specific forms, will that enable casting for the shifter forms?