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Re: Anyone tried to solo the Icedragon?

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:27 pm
by mrm3ntalist
Ewe wrote: Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:15 pm Does expose weakness bypass DR or stack? The description for it is not accurate. I was told it's DEX SCORE - 10 for damage per round, which is inconsistent with everything else in the entire game (it should be DEX MOD + 10, no other feats or spells grant bonuses on odd scores). Anyways, even if it bypassed DR and you could guarantee to keep it rolling every round it wouldn't surmount his 20 regen.
The damage is twice the dex bonus

Re: Anyone tried to solo the Icedragon?

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:18 am
by Okan
Damage should be ((your dex score) - 10), not double your dex modifier. If you have 17 dexterity you should be dealing 7 damage per tick, not 6.

Re: Anyone tried to solo the Icedragon?

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:01 am
by Ewe
Right which is odd to me, since all the rest of the mechanics work on even ability scores. Why would this one work on odd ones?

Also, (DEX Score -10) leaves room for possible underflow issues. Has anyone actually tried using it with a Dex Score of say 6 or 8?

Re: Anyone tried to solo the Icedragon?

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:32 pm
by Camera9
mrm3ntalist wrote: Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:27 pm The damage is twice the dex bonus
It just works like this :)

Re: Anyone tried to solo the Icedragon?

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:07 pm
by mrm3ntalist
Ewe wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:01 am Right which is odd to me, since all the rest of the mechanics work on even ability scores. Why would this one work on odd ones?

Also, (DEX Score -10) leaves room for possible underflow issues. Has anyone actually tried using it with a Dex Score of say 6 or 8?
Why is it odd? Compare the bleeding damage between the vanilla ew and the new one.
Okan wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:18 am Damage should be ((your dex score) - 10), not double your dex modifier. If you have 17 dexterity you should be dealing 7 damage per tick, not 6.
Why it should be dex score - 10?

Re: Anyone tried to solo the Icedragon?

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:21 pm
by Ewe
mrm3ntalist wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:07 pm
Ewe wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:01 am Right which is odd to me, since all the rest of the mechanics work on even ability scores. Why would this one work on odd ones?

Also, (DEX Score -10) leaves room for possible underflow issues. Has anyone actually tried using it with a Dex Score of say 6 or 8?
Why is it odd? Compare the bleeding damage between the vanilla ew and the new one.
Okan wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:18 am Damage should be ((your dex score) - 10), not double your dex modifier. If you have 17 dexterity you should be dealing 7 damage per tick, not 6.
Why it should be dex score - 10?

I'm not sure you're following -- In game it is actually implemented as Dex Score minus ten, and not double dex mod. Check in game...

If you have 18 dex minus 10 you get 8 damage. (This just happens to be the same as +4 x 2)

But 19 dex minus 10 you get 9 damage. 30 dex you get 20 damage (30-10=20, which happens to be the same as +10x2, but 31 dex gives you 21 damage), so on. It's not the same thing as dex mod times two. It's dex score minus 10.

This means that you gain damage bonuses to it on odd scores and even scores both. That's why it's strange, as most abilities in the game only give benefits from even scores.

Re: Anyone tried to solo the Icedragon?

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:44 pm
by Camera9
Oh yeah, you’re actually right ! That explains why at certain point I used to get an odd dmg.
You can learn something new every day :)

Re: Anyone tried to solo the Icedragon?

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:14 am
by Tuck
The all mighty DMs can solo the White Wyrm