Baldur's Gate : The Sword Coast Chronicles : NWN2 Persistent World

mrm3ntalist wrote:

Thids wrote:I wanted to link a post where I'm saying "if we introduce these +3 items now, where will it stop?", but that thread has unfortunately disappeared. I'm going to post the video anyway.



Went from "let's introduce +3 hide/ms items into the loot table" to introducing +4AC +4hide/ms items (even though the idea of increasing AC instead of hide and MS has been furiously rejected by the sneak lobby ) and nerfing the crap out of amplify and C&C.

Yet another notch on my internet argument victory board.

So what?

Nothing, just won another internet argument, thought I'd come to brag about it a bit. Albeit an old one, but still, a win is a win. For a while there I wasn't really sure if I'd ever get a clear win, but luckily I did!

Thids wrote:Nothing, just won another internet argument, thought I'd come to brag about it a bit. Albeit an old one, but still, a win is a win. For a while there I wasn't really sure if I'd ever get a clear win, but luckily I did!

You had many more "wins" and will ahve more.

- We said that the archmage will only multiclass with certain PRCs now we opened it for all
- We said that the warmace is fine as is, not only we improved it but we are going to do so for many other weapons
- Sneak gear you already covered it
- We talked about nerfing FSs then we took it back
- I am certain others can add more to that

Things here move forward and change. If you cannot handle that and get upset, that is all you... Dont expect everyone else to sit back and wait for you though.

Upset? Why would I be upset? I play neither a sneak nor a "detector" and I was just proven right beyond any doubt! Majority of the QC team is either utterly clueless or utterly biased when it comes to the matters of balance.

You still can't answer my question: Were the monstrous sneak buffs through items and nerfs of the spells a RP, pvp or a pve related change?

mrm3ntalist wrote: - We talked about nerfing FSs then we took it back

So no FS nerf? Good to know.

Thids wrote:Upset? Why would I be upset? I play neither a sneak nor a "detector" and I was just proven right beyond any doubt! Majority of the QC team is either utterly clueless or utterly biased when it comes to the matters of balance.

Clueless and biased because of what? What are the facts/numbers you provided ever to support your claims? You never put the numbers together... just talk, which is easy. So yes, according to Thid's standards the QC team is clueless and biased. Its a good thing to fail Thid's standards

You still can't answer my question: Were the monstrous sneak buffs through items and nerfs of the spells a RP, pvp or a pve related change?

The answer to your questions is: They were needed. Prove me wrong.

mrm3ntalist wrote:

Thids wrote:Upset? Why would I be upset? I play neither a sneak nor a "detector" and I was just proven right beyond any doubt! Majority of the QC team is either utterly clueless or utterly biased when it comes to the matters of balance.

Clueless and biased because of what? What are the facts/numbers you provided ever to support your claims? You never put the numbers together... just talk, which is easy. So yes, according to Thid's standards the QC team is clueless and biased. Its a good thing to fail Thid's standards

Numbers? You mean like you completely avoided any numbers when you entered the "nerf FS" thread and just put a "+1" to aelcar's post?

Still avoiding to answer my question, which only points yet again to the conclusion that QC has clearly stepped out of its juristiction when it came to buffing the sneaks and nerfing the detectors.


If you'd like to call common sense "Thid's standards" I am honored, thank you.

Thids wrote: Numbers? You mean like you completely avoided any numbers when you entered the "nerf FS" thread and just put a "+1" to aelcar's post?

Nah, i leave the +1s to you

Still avoiding to answer my question, which only points yet again to the conclusion that QC has clearly stepped out of its juristiction when it came to buffing the sneaks and nerfing the detectors.

I told you it was needed, if that didnt cover you, nothing more i can do for you

If you'd like to call common sense "Thid's standards" I am honored, thank you.

No, common sense is called common sense. "Thid's standards" is some generic talk with nothing to base that talk on. Its eveident from your posts.

When FS are not nerfed at all yet Dwarves are nerfed. When sneaks get buffed and warriors never are. Yes I must admit I sometimes question if QC really wants balance outside of their own interest.

AlwaysSummer Day wrote:When FS are not nerfed at all yet Dwarves are nerfed. When sneaks get buffed and warriors never are. Yes I must admit I sometimes question if QC really wants balance outside of their own interest.

What? When the dwarves got nerfed?

Also care to explain what is our own interest?

mrm3ntalist wrote:

Thids wrote: Numbers? You mean like you completely avoided any numbers when you entered the "nerf FS" thread and just put a "+1" to aelcar's post?

Nah, i leave the +1s to you

Still avoiding to answer my question, which only points yet again to the conclusion that QC has clearly stepped out of its juristiction when it came to buffing the sneaks and nerfing the detectors.

I told you it was needed, if that didnt cover you, nothing more i can do for you

If you'd like to call common sense "Thid's standards" I am honored, thank you.

No, common sense is called common sense. "Thid's standards" is some generic talk with nothing to base that talk on. Its eveident from your posts.

Evident from my posts? The only thing that is clearly evident from my posts is that the QC is biased and ineffective.

mrm3ntalist wrote:

AlwaysSummer Day wrote:When FS are not nerfed at all yet Dwarves are nerfed. When sneaks get buffed and warriors never are. Yes I must admit I sometimes question if QC really wants balance outside of their own interest.

What? When the dwarves got nerfed?

Also care to explain what is our own interest?

Most "giant" creatures on the server have AB and damage bonuses against Dwarves. When asked why I was told "Dwarven Defender OP" so they had to be nerfed.

Your own interest? What you play. That should be obvious.

Thids wrote:Evident from my posts? The only thing that is clearly evident from my posts is that the QC is biased and ineffective.

The only thing from your posts is that talk depending on your mood and never say why a change is not good. Like give some actual number or something.

I understand that you feel that "The situation on bg is just becoming more disgusting on a daily basis" but I cant help you with that. I am not a doctor.

Numbers to show what? Why you, as a member of the QC team, pushed for a change which isn't for you to decide on by making it seem as if it is? Sorry bud, numbers can't show lack of integrity.

AlwaysSummer Day wrote:Most "giant" creatures on the server have AB and damage bonuses against Dwarves. When asked why I was told "Dwarven Defender OP" so they had to be nerfed.

Oh, i thought there was an actual nerf. I cant remember since when some giants those FE feats but definetely was not a QC desicion, nor anyone really bothered with it. Do you know how many mobs have similar "bonuses" for different builds? Like DR, immunities to spells, scripts written to deal with picking mobs one by one etc?

Your own interest? What you play. That should be obvious.

It is not obvious. What do i (we?) play?

Thids wrote:Numbers to show what? Why you, as a member of the QC team, pushed for a change which isn't for you to decide on by making it seem as if it is? Sorry bud, numbers can't show lack of integrity.

No, show me how those changes are not justified. I already did in a previous post. Because i understand how "disgusted" you feel lately, here is the link so that you dont have to search - Subject: Amplify and Clairaudience