Baldur's Gate : The Sword Coast Chronicles : NWN2 Persistent World

DM Novus wrote:The first thing to consider when your PC encounters a Warlock or a Gray Orc—heaven forbid a Gray Orc Warlock...for that, your PC just implodes —is just what does your Character know about warlocks or Gray Orcs.

In this regard, your PC's background is important. Does your PC have past experience with the brutality of Orcs? Is your PC an Elf or Dwarf, that has since birth been trained to hunt and kill Orcs with passion? Is your PC knowledgeable enough about spell casting to actually know the difference between invocations and arcane magic, or even divine magic? Would your Character be of the morality to even care?

Just because your Build has Spellcraft points, what comes up in the Combat Log does not mean that one knows everything about magic...or warlock invocations. But I digress.

In and near Baldur's Gate, there are actual Laws that define devil magic—invocations—as being illegal. Considering Server specific Lore, Orcs—because of the Black Orc—would be hated upon...and I do mean it, hated upon.

If you want to Role-play extreme hate towards a Class or a Race, as you feel it represents your Character's being in truth, then I recommend you do the opposing Player a favor and send a simple Tell that you are staying true to the nature of your Character, and that OOC, no hard feelings.

What you might gain is an actual partner in some interesting conflict Role-play, and when all the Players realize it is based in good-natured fun—though the Role-play is heated—a good gaming moment is had.

Never fear acting in-character, as all Players have the tools available to them to communicate OOC, in order to be polite and kind to each other.

FlippinFerrets wrote:

DM Novus wrote:The first thing to consider when your PC encounters a Warlock or a Gray Orc—heaven forbid a Gray Orc Warlock...for that, your PC just implodes —is just what does your Character know about warlocks or Gray Orcs.

In this regard, your PC's background is important. Does your PC have past experience with the brutality of Orcs? Is your PC an Elf or Dwarf, that has since birth been trained to hunt and kill Orcs with passion? Is your PC knowledgeable enough about spell casting to actually know the difference between invocations and arcane magic, or even divine magic? Would your Character be of the morality to even care?

Just because your Build has Spellcraft points, what comes up in the Combat Log does not mean that one knows everything about magic...or warlock invocations. But I digress.

In and near Baldur's Gate, there are actual Laws that define devil magic—invocations—as being illegal. Considering Server specific Lore, Orcs—because of the Black Orc—would be hated upon...and I do mean it, hated upon.

If you want to Role-play extreme hate towards a Class or a Race, as you feel it represents your Character's being in truth, then I recommend you do the opposing Player a favor and send a simple Tell that you are staying true to the nature of your Character, and that OOC, no hard feelings.

What you might gain is an actual partner in some interesting conflict Role-play, and when all the Players realize it is based in good-natured fun—though the Role-play is heated—a good gaming moment is had.

Never fear acting in-character, as all Players have the tools available to them to communicate OOC, in order to be polite and kind to each other.

This is very solid advice, thank you.

DM Novus wrote:In and near Baldur's Gate, there are actual Laws that define devil magic—invocations—as being illegal.

Nomster wrote:

DM Novus wrote:In and near Baldur's Gate, there are actual Laws that define devil magic—invocations—as being illegal.

Which law would cover this..? I cannot seem to find one which it would fall under.

FlippinFerrets wrote:I have a question. How should someone react to seeing a warlock on the surface? I was in a low level area and someone flat out said, "You shouldn't talk to a warlock like that." and I pretty much just stopped in my tracks. I had no idea what to say or do, so I danced around the situation until I could disengage from it.

Edit: Warlock obtain their power by pacts with demons or having fey blood, right?

GFN wrote:

FlippinFerrets wrote:I have a question. How should someone react to seeing a warlock on the surface? I was in a low level area and someone flat out said, "You shouldn't talk to a warlock like that." and I pretty much just stopped in my tracks. I had no idea what to say or do, so I danced around the situation until I could disengage from it.

Edit: Warlock obtain their power by pacts with demons or having fey blood, right?

Why do I get the feeling that was me? And yes, we get our power from either creating a pact with a demon ourselves OR any of our ancestors doing so (Going off my Complete Arcane (3.5e Supplement) If there's anything more recent that overwrites this, let me know.) as in the case of Nicholas. IIRC, however, Hellfire Warlocks MUST enter a pact with a demon to learn the secrets of the flames of the 9 Hells.

As for my question, I can't seem to find anything in Book of Vile Darkness or either of the Fiendish Codexes that says what types of demons can possess people. So is there something that says, for example, a Babau or a Balor cannot possess someone to gain a presence on the material realm? I'd assume if they COULD then the creature would be much weaker than if it were here physically.

The_Gruff_Stout wrote:

GFN wrote:

FlippinFerrets wrote:I have a question. How should someone react to seeing a warlock on the surface? I was in a low level area and someone flat out said, "You shouldn't talk to a warlock like that." and I pretty much just stopped in my tracks. I had no idea what to say or do, so I danced around the situation until I could disengage from it.

Edit: Warlock obtain their power by pacts with demons or having fey blood, right?

Why do I get the feeling that was me? And yes, we get our power from either creating a pact with a demon ourselves OR any of our ancestors doing so (Going off my Complete Arcane (3.5e Supplement) If there's anything more recent that overwrites this, let me know.) as in the case of Nicholas. IIRC, however, Hellfire Warlocks MUST enter a pact with a demon to learn the secrets of the flames of the 9 Hells.

As for my question, I can't seem to find anything in Book of Vile Darkness or either of the Fiendish Codexes that says what types of demons can possess people. So is there something that says, for example, a Babau or a Balor cannot possess someone to gain a presence on the material realm? I'd assume if they COULD then the creature would be much weaker than if it were here physically.

I always thought the Hellfire warlock got their power from pledging themselves (soul) to the Lord of the 8th hell.

http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Mephistopheles

"The offering of hellfire is yet one more way the fiends have worked their claws into our world. Each mortal who thinks to master this fell power is yet one more fool offering his soul to the Lord of the Eighth."

-- Alód the Traveler, planeshifter

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dn ... 07a&page=3

I don't think demons would have anything to do with it. They are from the abyss, not the nine hells. You would be dealing with devils in any case. At least that is what I've always thought to be the case.

This thread has some answers as well.

http://www.bgtscc.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=37180

Hope that sheds some hellish light on it for you.

Sending wrote:You contact a particular creature with which you are familiar